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Post by The Admiralty OOC on Aug 7, 2016 20:47:06 GMT -8
Not sure were this suggestion would be most suited, so I figured I'd drop it here. We have too many planets. Even after the last purge. My suggestion is simple enough, any planet that doesn't yet have a 2016 post should also be archived. It is 8 months into the year, if it doesn't have a post yet it is fairly solidly dead. Last post 2015: *Core ** Corulag: 198 posts ** Nubia: 133 posts ** Rendili: 32 posts *Colonies ** Fondor: 31 posts *Inner Rim ** Ambria: 37 posts *Expansion ** Kinyen: 18 posts ** Shili: 354 posts *Mid Rim ** Anzat: 18 posts ** Falleen: 111 posts ** Rodia: 149 posts *Outer Rim E ** Barab I: 21 posts ** Jabiim: 75 posts ** Mirial: 7 posts ** New Alderaan: 78 posts ** New Wayland: 30 posts *Outer Rim W ** Dagobah: 145 posts ** Roon: 71 posts ** Varonat: 95 posts *Wild Space ** Bakura: 93 posts *Unknown Regions ** Zonama Sekot: 7 posts * Netherworld: 59 Posts **(Only one used this year & that was in Jan.) Last post 2014: *Colonies ** Balmora: 46 posts *Inner Rim ** Chazwa: 16 posts *Expansion ** Osarian: 89 posts *Outer Rim E ** The Maw: 7 posts *Outer Rim W ** Utapau: 64 posts Last post 2013: *Core ** Caamas: 22 posts *Inner Rim ** Obroa-Shai: 3 posts *Mid Rim ** Anobis: 45 posts ** Zolan: 9 posts Put very shortly, I feel all of these can be archived. The Netherworld could be combined into a single thread as pretty much no-one uses it anyway & having five threads is very much overkill. Hyperspace is often used as a 'general planets' thread, & if I'm not mistaken I've seen even Whills comment that is its purpose. If that is the case it would make much more sense (from a new comer perspective) to relabel the hyperspace threads As "General Planets". With fewer planets I think we would see a lot more interaction between the remaining writers, as well as making it simpler for those new converts to pick a place that actually has a chance of being active. The rules for archiving a single thread is dead for a month & 100 posts tops. All of these entire planets have been completely untouched for the better part of a year, at the least. The vast majority of them don't have a hundred posts in their entire history (several don't even break double digits & a few only have the thread starting posts). True, forums shouldn't be archived lightly, but we are literally drowning in planets. I have no way of determining the number of writers (not characters, but individual writers), but I have the feeling that we currently have more planets than writers. Truth be told, I very nearly want to suggest a greater number of planets be archived than just those listed above. On the other hand, I don't want to risk going overboard. Side/Ending note: I am aware this list isn't perfect. There are planets on it that should probably remain open (the 5 triple-digit planets standing out the most). On the other hand, there are planets not on the list that most probably should be*. An related idea that came up in chat was folding the Tingel Arm into the Outer Rim East topic or of combining the Wild Space, Unknown Regions, & Tingel Arm topics into a single one. *for example: **Abregado-rae, core, 19 post; **Froz, core, 21 posts; **Null, Mid Rim, 14 posts; **Abraxin, Outer Rim E, 9 posts; **Mygeeto, ORE, 4 posts; **Raxus Prime, ORE, 3 posts; **Hypori, ORW, 4 posts; **Ison, ORW, 28 posts; **Bonadan, Tingel, 12 posts; **Dubrillion, Tingel, 21 posts; **Zakuul, Wild, 3 posts |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 0:44:28 GMT -8
It should be important to note, that Raxus Prime, Hypori, Mygeeto, and Zakuul, all of which you believe should be on the list, were literally only created on April 1st of this year. Meaning these locations are barely 6 months old. On top of that, a number of the other locations you mentioned, have ongoing SLs.
that said, I can certainly agree with your picks that have less than 10 posts and haven't been posted on in over 12 months.
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on Aug 8, 2016 14:44:31 GMT -8
Shrugs
I'm not saying that is an end-all-be-all list. Only that the ones that were linked haven't been posted on in over 8 months (if any RP is going on there it has been in a void a terribly long time). As for the second list, that was more or less just a second glance through to see which planets had really low post counts, but weren't already on the main list (as a show of other low-traffic worlds that might be considered for the cut). I did not take into account that any of them might be new. Though from the post count on those five, it would seem the only posts they ever got was the Whills setting up the threads. Shrugs again Would I love to see a massive influx of writers to breath new life & activity into the site & make all this a pointless talk? Hell yes. Do I think it is going to happen? Not so likely.
On a side note, I happen to be ... a rather large fan of random info & knowing everything I can. Even so, I only recognize (at least on first glance) less that half the linked list. The second list fairs a bit better in name recognition. But then again, those are also planets that have been active more recently than the first list.
There are only five planets that rank single digit posts & no activity in 12 months (Mirial, Zonama Sekot, The Maw, Obroa-shai, & Zolan). Just archiving those fails to fully address the problem of the planets to writers ratio. The problem is that any new people that come looking will see all these empty & abandoned threads & think to themselves 'no point joining the site, it is dying or dead'. If I wanted to, I could expand direct control of my clan to a few dozen planets. All with just the standard fleet & army. Mainly because even if I did (& had the time/energy to post on that many worlds) No one would even bother saying anything because there is so much open space on the boards. I admit, open space is a good thing. It lets people spread out & try new ideas. At the same time, too much is very much a bad thing. I personally feel a good mix is between a planet to a planet & a quarter per writer (not character, writer. No one needs an entire planet by themselves for a single character. Been there, did that, boring as all get out). This way, if wanted there is plenty of room to spread out & make yourself a nice little empire, but at the same time, you are also likely to have at least some interactions with others (even more so once you start counting alts).
In that way, sure some of the planets will probably be either unused or visited only occasionally by the 'roving' groups. but most of the planets on the site will be getting at least moderate activity. Maybe what could be done is rank all the planets in order based on both how long ago the last post was & in a separate list the total posts. Archive the bottom five on each list. Give it two months or so, then hit the next five on each list. After that, Any planet that doesn't get a post in a four month period gets archived. That way the writers are the ones deciding (through where they spend their time & energy writing) which planets remain on the boards. If the Whills feel like that is too much work, I would be more than happy to do the work of compiling the lists & posting it openly (so people can see easily if a planet they want to save is on either list).
When we had hundreds of writers & thousands of character we needed a site with nearly two hundred planets. Now we have a fraction of that population & still just as many planets. We are drowning in threads. It is about time we clean some of it up.
Post Script Note: There are 956 IC Universe threads on the boards (49 of which are archived). There are 1450 characters listed, including joke accounts & those that only posted a few times before losing interest (300 don't even have a single post, by the way, another 150 with only a single post). Of those only 550 have more than 20 posts. Only 500 That have been logged in since the beginning of the new year. 350 Logged in since April of this year (four months ago). This is why I'm doing this. We don't need 2-3 threads per character, not writers but characters, on the boards. It is simply insane.
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Post by Makhai Winters on Aug 9, 2016 4:20:59 GMT -8
I can tell you that
Hypori
Ambria
Roon
have intended storylines coming. The writer group has hit some snags in personal lives that has delayed those storylines from advancing yet, but hopefully those three will be coming soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 9:21:49 GMT -8
The fact that you are shrugging, tends to make me feel like perhaps you really don't care, which begs the question, why raise this issue to begin with. But ignoring that little observation, let's discuss this a little bit further. As Makhai has pointed out, and a point I have been continually making for about the last year or more now, Real Life is a very large factor for a lot of people on JvS. Yes, some of us have countless hours to be able to spend just sitting on JvS in chat or writing posts, however not everyone is so lucky. And It's certainly not a thing unique to JvS. It is just more apparent here because of the smaller community we have. And there is nothing wrong with that. Other than the fact that things just move a little slower around here. Is that such a terrible thing, that people don't prioritise JvS? absolutely not. Does it mean that some things don't get uber activity? yes. But does that mean we should whole sale archive a bunch of planets? certainly not. As someone who has never read any EU content (yes, heresy I know, especially for an RPA like myself), it's not necessarily a matter of knowing all of these places personally. I mean, I've more than once used Wookieepedia to learn about planets that I saw on here, or look up a species someone was writing, because no one knows everything. You can know all the random information you want to, but there will still be someone else who knows different random information to you that may have overlap, but also differ from you. I'd say that the fact you listed locations and made suggestions for how to tackle it, tends to be heading to the realm of be-all-end-all. Maybe some discussion with your fellow writers first on their thoughts about what planets should be recommended for archiving could help? After all, JvS is more than just one person, and even more than one group of writers. Meaning consultation with other people is important. After reviewing both your posts, there are three glaring points that I see: "With fewer planets I think we would see a lot more interaction between the remaining writers" not necessarily true, there is nothing stopping people from willingly doing this now, so to try and force this would only end badly. "No one needs an entire planet by themselves for a single character. Been there, did that, boring as all get out" that is your opinion, and not necessarily a fact. I know people who are perfectly happy with having an entire planet to one character/themselves. In that same breath, I also know people who also finding boring, Does one side's opinion invalidate the others? I should hope not. We are a diverse community here. "Archive the bottom five on each list. Give it two months or so, then hit the next five on each list...." This whole time scale thing. This goes back to my opening point, and to what Makhai has mentioned. We don't all have the time we would like to spend on JvS, or posting as often as we would like. Some people only get a couple days a week/month/couple months to post. Should we penalise them because they have other priorities before JvS? That has been one of the great things about JvS, which a lot of communities have as a turn off, and that is that JvS is a hobby, not a priority. Now, onto this whole point about new people this, and new people that. These points are always conjecture, and it saddens me that veteran writers around here seem to have these preconceived notions about what new people will think, see, or feel. Of the half dozen new people that we have after gotten on JvS in the past year or two, rarely if ever have I heard the comment that they thought this place was dying or dead because of all the locations. The real biggest issue we have had with getting new people, is the lack of advertising that JvS is getting. I mean, right now, the only halfway advertising thing we kind of have, is through people who have moved from here to Chaos (either willingly in a handful of cases, or were banned from JvS for their own conduct). Beyond that, we are rather hard to find unless you are friends with, dating, or related to someone who writes here. My point being, we need some exposure. Honestly, I would be in support of combing Wild Space, Unknown Regions, & Tingel Arm into The Reaches, it would make for some nice tidying up. I would also be fine with renaming the Hyperspace threads into something like Open Space, which is what they used to be in either 1.0 or 1.5 and worked fine. And now, I just want to latch onto your final little numbers game. You seem to be concerned primarily with the amount of threads that we have. And I know you'll combat this idea like you did in chat. However, my suggestion stills remains. Instead of wholesale archiving of planets, how about we instead approach this matter from a different angle, and archive a series of locations to cut down on the number of threads across the board, instead of archiving entire planets. And maybe consult with more of our fellow writers before going "here's x list that I feel should be archived, good day". On a side note, I feel like perhaps this discussion should be moved here: boards.jedivsith.com/board/671/misc-requests |
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on Aug 9, 2016 16:16:20 GMT -8
I am shrugging because the specific planets in question that should be archived is something that is & should be very much open to debate. The fact remains however that some however definitely do need to be locked up for the time being. The first post (& the fact I pointed it out to everyone in chat that I could) was more to gather more people to talk about what should be archived & what should be saved. This included my own suggestion on what the list should include at just a first glance as a starting point. I have seen too many threads argue themselves in circles & never suggesting any possibilities before slowly losing interest & fading. True, my suggestions aren't perfect, not everyone is going to agree with this, that or the other. But at least with a starting list, there is more likely to be debate on the pros & cons of individual planets & if they should be on the list. I had hoped that the conversation that gone from the first post had been rebuttals, counter-points, & additional suggestions to the list, not the nit-picking without evidence of the list in its entirety as a set & solid whole. You disagree with the planets listed? Very well. Point out the specific ones you have issue with & why. You have ideas on what would be a better thing to put on the list? Tell me what & why. Several in chat suggested keeping the 5 triple-digit planets (because of the IC history built up there) or the 2 'movie' planets, 3 if you count New Alderaan (Because they are strong touch-stones for newcomers). Points I happen to agree with. I am sorry if this paragraph comes off rudely or too strongly, as that was not my intention. It is an unfortunate drawback of the text medium [/seriousness]. Though if this conversation were happening in person, I would likely find myself unable to say much of anything [/light humour]. I am not a mind reader (As much as I might wish wishes really hard for a few moments, but it doesn't work), as such I can't say which is any of these planets may or may not see activity in the future. Only what has been. I make no arguments for or against anyone's personal prioritization of their lives as that is their personal business. True those that are gone for extended periods, assuming they were the only ones RPing on the planet may return to find the planet had been locked. How is that any different from returning to find that the planet had been taken over by someone else in the mean time? I have returned from at least two Real Life enforced 'breaks' to discover that very thing. The only thing needed is a simple post somewhere saying your resources had been moved to a new location to avoid conflict or after losing the defending fight. In some ways returning to find a locked planet would be easier to fix as all that requires is a request to unlock it. That, however, is beginning to move in a direction unrelated to the current discussion (as far as I can tell anyway). In the case of what a new person may or may not see. I (again) can't read minds, so yes, it is conjecture. However conjecture has the root of empathy. I know that in my mind, if I saw a board with nearly twice or three times the number of threads as active members, I would question the long term integrity of the board. Especially so as a quick browse through the first level indices shows nearly a fifth of all planets more or less untouched. That is what I would think, therefor that is what I project others would think. I am aware enough that other people are not me. Not all, or possibly even not many, will have the same reaction to the situation as I would. This however is again straying from the topic at hand. Agreed, we do need more exposure. However taking one action does not mean that you have to ignore all other options. It is perfectly reasonable to take multiple corrective actions at once. As I am not particularly outspoken or social outside my established circles. I would be a poor choice to deal with spreading the word. Which is one of the reasons I focused on something I am equipped to help deal with. You seem to be aware of what I have said in chat, but I don't seem to remember you being present to talk about it there  [/light humour]. Regardless, I am not against going through & locking up specific threads world by world. In fact, I can, if you want, quote a line from chat last night on that very subject (Below). So yes, I would love to have many of the unused individual threads on various planets locked as well. Indeed, if such an action would be seen more favorably, I could pull together a nice list of unused sub-topics that could be debated. Again, something I noted in chat was that even with the removal of 30 entire planets the direct effect it would have on the current population would be minimal, so the 'forcing people to interact' wouldn't really be an issue. It is however, a simple fact of system mechanics is that in a smaller system the units will interact more freely than in a larger, more diffuse system. So those that want to be left alone will still be able to, while increasing the chance of random interactions among those that are motile. I tend to think in numbers, & as such numbers speak loudest to me. The numbers themselves are not good or bad. They just are. The picture they paint together here, however, is worrying. 350 active characters is a beautiful number. It is in fact a good bit higher than I expected it to be. However, the number of threads is, I feel, much too high in relation to that number. As for where the talk happens, again, it really doesn't matter to me where it happens as long as it is debated & a course of action is firmly decided on. As I listed in the first post, I felt this thread was the most reasonable place to put it. If that is not the case, I would be more than happy for it to be moved it elsewhere (hopefully assuming the posts can be either moved completely or re-posted in the new location to prevent having to rehash the previously talked on points). |
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Post by Alaric Lamar on Aug 9, 2016 17:13:03 GMT -8
I am a big fan of the Admiral's proposal. It seems well researched, well reasoned and a step in the right direction to reorganize the site according to our pool of writers. I totally understand Prar's point in saying that JVS has changed and that people have gotten busy and aren't wiriting as much anymore, I said as much in my own post talking about the site's layout. However we need to ask ourselves if JVS is only for the remaining OLD SCHOOL JVS writers, or if this will bec ome a site for new writers and a new age of growth and creativity for the site. As an old writer who was inactive for over a year, coming back here, I came back with a much more "newbie"/"guest" perspective.
This time away gave me a different perspective and I came back and immediately saw things i'd like to change. Because I am not content to just let JVS slowly fade as our core group of writers get busier and busier. I think an important step in making the site "cleaner" and more easily accessible for new writers is definitely to clean up the dozens of unused/underused planetary threads. This serves a number of purposes... Coming back i was a bit disappointed at the "feeling" that the site was empty, this "feeling" came about because i saw so many unactive threads... I think it would do wonders for guests to come see fewer, more active threads because we will seem (though we are) a more active site than we appear to be. Appearences are everything.
Prar, I can understand to an extent your argument that "less planets doesn't guarantee more RP" and "writers will either write together or avoid writing together no matter how many threads" this I totally agree with... But conversely, fewer threads isn't going to "Force" people to interact together... we have seen countless times how writers and groups will ignore one another as they are on seperate timelines, so i don't think we need to be scared of fewer threads...
In addition what is defined as "fewer threads"? The way I see it the Admiral gives a list of 30 potential planets for archiving out of 132 planets (by my count). We would in effect only be losing 22% of our board, which is CERTAINLY not the end of the world, especially if we have an estimated writer base of 60-100 active writers. Our number of active writers is potentiall under the number of planets we have in our galaxy, even if we lose the 30 admiral suggested. This makes me think that there is still PLENTY of space left for people to be free an unconstrained in their RP, and not be forced to write together.
sorry this is not as eloquent as Admiral's arguments. But i would just like to voice my support for his proposal and I wholeheartedly believe this would improve the character and atmosphere of the site, especially for the benefit of potentially new writers
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Post by Makhai Winters on Aug 11, 2016 18:10:56 GMT -8
The proposed planets list encompasses a LOT of places from the movies as well as home planets to a number of very interesting and pivotal species.
As someone who has joined only in the last year, first thing I would try would be to encourage and grasp the uniqueness of each planet and what it offers. As a writer, going to a planet and seeing "History is unknown" all over the place is a real turn off and creativity killer. Plus like I mentioned months back "Open Terrain" and "Open Space" for each planet generically makes me really not bother with looking elsewhere because I don't know what is going on where unless its a planet I'm already involved on, so if you WANT to encourage me as a writer to play elsewhere, then make it easier for me to find and navigate elsewhere plus give me incentive to look elsewhere and see what planets offer.
That said, I realize that this would be a very expansive task, and it would certainly have to be done in small pieces because as a former admin on another writing site that would probably take 20-30 minutes per planet to be accurate and creative.
Other note: You have writing cliques, and each clique has different styles, likes, and expectations so yes to "force" people to interact will only end badly.
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Aug 11, 2016 18:31:12 GMT -8
As someone who has joined only in the last year, first thing I would try would be to encourage and grasp the uniqueness of each planet and what it offers. As a writer, going to a planet and seeing "History is unknown" all over the place is a real turn off and creativity killer. Plus like I mentioned months back "Open Terrain" and "Open Space" for each planet generically makes me really not bother with looking elsewhere because I don't know what is going on where unless its a planet I'm already involved on, so if you WANT to encourage me as a writer to play elsewhere, then make it easier for me to find and navigate elsewhere plus give me incentive to look elsewhere and see what planets offer. Whill Chrysanthe has actually been doing just this over the last few days, and only has maybe two regions left? Take a look, you'll see that the majority of planets actually have their names in their orbit and terrain threads, as well as descriptions added to canon locations that previously didn't have them. Apart from orbit threads, but I mean, there's not much to say there most of the time anyway. As for my two creds on the topic: I'm not against archiving more planets, but would sooner take away ones with little significance. From what I gathered from Chrys in Discord, Juvex and Zolan have like no info on Wookiee, and Zolan's only significance is being the home of the Clawdite species. Worlds like that I feel like could perhaps go. But there's also plenty of fluff threads on other worlds that are otherwise active or significant that could probably go. The problem is, in most cases, no one is there to claim them, meaning there's no one to post an archive request unless someone wants to RP taking the planet just for the sake of archiving the useless junk. Long story short, I do believe some sort of archiving is in order, maybe not to the extent that Admy is suggesting, but some would do good. |
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Post by Zuka Zammanee Tarkin on Aug 12, 2016 14:12:52 GMT -8
Disagree, what harm comes from having a bunch of unused worlds/threads? They will get used eventually, I'm doing my best. Part of the allure of this site is the ability to play on both familiar and unfamiliar worlds. Shrinking the pond is not a wise choice. I hope this push to archive unused worlds/threads dies, in all honesty... unless there is a legitimate problem and scrolling around and being bothered by unused threads is not legitimate... to me.
Seriously, what's wrong with having all those unused threads? Options are great! lol
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Post by Makhai Winters on Aug 12, 2016 16:15:21 GMT -8
As someone who has joined only in the last year, first thing I would try would be to encourage and grasp the uniqueness of each planet and what it offers. As a writer, going to a planet and seeing "History is unknown" all over the place is a real turn off and creativity killer. Plus like I mentioned months back "Open Terrain" and "Open Space" for each planet generically makes me really not bother with looking elsewhere because I don't know what is going on where unless its a planet I'm already involved on, so if you WANT to encourage me as a writer to play elsewhere, then make it easier for me to find and navigate elsewhere plus give me incentive to look elsewhere and see what planets offer. Whill Chrysanthe has actually been doing just this over the last few days, and only has maybe two regions left? Take a look, you'll see that the majority of planets actually have their names in their orbit and terrain threads, as well as descriptions added to canon locations that previously didn't have them. Apart from orbit threads, but I mean, there's not much to say there most of the time anyway. As for my two creds on the topic: I'm not against archiving more planets, but would sooner take away ones with little significance. From what I gathered from Chrys in Discord, Juvex and Zolan have like no info on Wookiee, and Zolan's only significance is being the home of the Clawdite species. Worlds like that I feel like could perhaps go. But there's also plenty of fluff threads on other worlds that are otherwise active or significant that could probably go. The problem is, in most cases, no one is there to claim them, meaning there's no one to post an archive request unless someone wants to RP taking the planet just for the sake of archiving the useless junk. Long story short, I do believe some sort of archiving is in order, maybe not to the extent that Admy is suggesting, but some would do good. Ah, excellent! I had missed that and I appreciate that you pointed it out to me so I can look for it! Thank you! |
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Post by Alaric Lamar on Aug 13, 2016 8:21:31 GMT -8
An RP site like this survives and prospers when the site is user-friendly, Having literally hundreds of threads and *not hundreds of writers the site feels empty, I just got back and it feels like there are only 10 people on the site, I see the same dozen or so names in chat, thats not necessarily a problem, but I don't think that anyone would argue that the site wouldn't be better with more writers, more adventures, more encounters, more diversity. As a new guy coming back, the site doesn't feel user-friendly, its feels massive an empty... What would a guest think when he saw that in some places the last post was 6 months ago or worse yet, over a year ago?
We have a good amount of players, some really excellent writing, much better than 1.5, and the number of planets we have should be proportional to our members, or at very least the number of planets needs to reflect the number of writers we have. This will make the site feel more full, won't make it seem like Draykons Crew's RP or the First Order's invasions are happening in the same galaxy. I think people need to be more conscientious that though they may have found JVS, they should keep the door open so that new people can join in on this great community.
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Post by Jan'ika Fett on Aug 13, 2016 18:29:43 GMT -8
As someone how has been gone for a while. 3 days short or a full year 😐 and now all of sudden thinking of getting back into stuff I support this idea.
Now I was the last one to RP on Jabiim and Utapau and even though I may RP there again I feel as though having so many threads can be a problem. Note having so many places is fine. For example if it's only me and another person on Jabiim we only need a Jabiim thread, we don't need orbit, the capital and another general thread. It would actually be easier to merge them since it would keep stories easier to follow.
Kind of makes we question the whole planet system. Like if there is a war having the war in one thread would make it much easier to follow.
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Post by Zuka Zammanee Tarkin on Aug 15, 2016 5:51:26 GMT -8
Having an entire war that is supposed to be fought in multiple areas all in one thread... nah I don't want to sift through all that just so I can find the one or two posts that I need to reply to.
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Post by Zuka Zammanee Tarkin on Aug 15, 2016 8:59:09 GMT -8
Thinking further... I'm not against consolidating, one thread per world. No exceptions, no faction perks.
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Aug 15, 2016 10:52:36 GMT -8
If you're having a war on a planet, you don't want it all crammed into one place, because then it gets really cluttered and crowded and harder to follow than you might think it is broken up between different threads. Different threads allows the action to be more focused in each individual area, and even when not in a war they provide different options for planets that do have multiple writers. They can keep their RP separate and contained from the other writers and not lose them in the shuffle.
Consolidating threads on un(der)used to remove superfluous ones I could get behind, leaving them with only an orbit, terrain, and maybe a city thread. Making all planets have only one thread like in 1.0? That's just ridiculous.
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on Aug 15, 2016 16:35:15 GMT -8
Agreed, One thread per planet is way too far. I remember 1.0, I'd rather not turn 2.0 into a copy of it. XD
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Post by Zuka Zammanee Tarkin on Aug 16, 2016 5:03:21 GMT -8
Well we have polls and admins to oversee the results. Have at it.
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Post by Whill Shaman Chrysanthe on Aug 16, 2016 11:38:22 GMT -8
While I'm just one Whill, I can tell you what's probably not going to happen: Reducing every planet to one thread. For one thing, that's a lot of work! A lot of new threads to make, a ton of subforums to move, and that wouldn't leave a lot of space on the planets, especially active ones. And I just got done renaming and updating all the threads, too... If you want to make a poll about it, be our guest, but we probably wouldn't shake things up like that. It'd be less work for us to just archive stuff we don't need.  |
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on Aug 16, 2016 15:13:31 GMT -8
The problem with polls in this case is that we can't have a poll with nine hundred+ options for people to vote on which threads should or should not be archived. A much simpler & direct way of going about it a round table discussion, such as is being held in this very thread. Again, if you happen to have specific threads or groups of threads you think deserve to be looked at for the discussion, by all means list them (links may also be helpful for finding individual threads/groups but rather pointless for planets at this point) & your reasons for why they would be a good reason to archive.
Admy's Revised List:
No Posts since 2013:
Caamas, Obroa-shai, Anobis, Zolan
Under ten posts (including start of thread posts):
Zonama Sekot, Mirial, The Maw, Abraxin, Ison
Under thirty posts (including start of thread posts):
Kinyen, Anzat, Barab I, New Wayland, Chazwa, Abregado-rae, Froz, Null, Bonadan, Dubrillion
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[/light humour]. Regardless, I am not against going through & locking up specific threads world by world. In fact, I can, if you want, quote a line from chat last night on that very subject (Below). So yes, I would love to have many of the unused individual threads on various planets locked as well. Indeed, if such an action would be seen more favorably, I could pull together a nice list of unused sub-topics that could be debated. Again, something I noted in chat was that even with the removal of 30 entire planets the direct effect it would have on the current population would be minimal, so the 'forcing people to interact' wouldn't really be an issue. It is however, a simple fact of system mechanics is that in a smaller system the units will interact more freely than in a larger, more diffuse system. So those that want to be left alone will still be able to, while increasing the chance of random interactions among those that are motile. 
