Xakire
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Post by Xakire on Oct 6, 2017 23:41:49 GMT -8
So I've been working on redoing my personal armies and I've got a couple of questions on it. Every type of vehicle and troop have an exhange rate expect for the force users. I know that most people probably wouldn't have much if any force users in their armies, myself included but there doesnt seem to be an exhange rate for them to normal troops. I've been assuming that 10 Commando = 1 Padawan Level and that 5 Padawans = 1 Master but I wanted to see if there was an actual rule on this.
I was also wondering what the advantage to having the NPC generals are? Also, if I might be so bold as to suggest it may be a good idea to include how many points you can have for an army total (where 1 Standard Troop = 1 Point) because I think it would be handy to have this written down without having to do all the math if somone wants a very different type of army to what is suggested in the rules. Just a suggestion!
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 1:17:08 GMT -8
There is no exchange rate, for the sheer reason that you are not permitted to have any more than the allotted Force Users/NPC Generals. Something that is explained in the rules:
NPC Generals are kind of meant to serve as characters that lead within your army that are stronger than your soldiers (whether that is standard, elite, or commando). They’re basically what they sound like, NPCs that are Generals. That is then further broken down into two subsets. Those that are Master Force User equivalent and those that are Padawan Force User equivalent.
The idea is that these characters can exist for balance reasons, so that your one character isn’t trying to command some half a million or so soldiers without any support. It also means that everyone is ideally working with the same number of people at the same power levels.
Everything already technically has a point value assigned. It’s not all that difficult to run through the math that exists as is. Setting a point limit would mean either having some ridiculous large looking allotment, or units would have to cost less than a point.
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Xakire
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Post by Xakire on Oct 7, 2017 1:38:51 GMT -8
Oh right, my bad. I thought that it was 35 generals which I imagined to just be high ranking officers within the army and then you had 30 padawans and 5 masters. It makes a lot more sense now, sorry, my bad. I'm not sure how I missed that.
So it also says that you can only trade down 25 generals leaving 10 that you can't trade down. Does this mean that those 10 are lost if you don't want force users?
I wanted to build my army's composition from scratch so I converted everything into stand troops and then worked it all out. It wasn't hard, it was just a bit tedious.
Anyway, thanks for answering the questions. It all makes a lot more sense now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 8:36:57 GMT -8
Yeah, the rules need some layout work done on them. But it’s probably just a weird mistake you made too.
As for the Generals. Yes, you can only trade down 25 NPC Generals for more Commandos (and then more elites and standards as you trade them further down). No, you don’t “lose” those 10. You just can’t trade them further down for more troopers. You just have them in reserve to use for ANY kind of NPC. It is not exclusively for having Force User NPC characters.
The language is written such that it gives a guide for the kind of force sensitive NPCs you can use, and how many of each “power-level” you can have. It is also meant to act as a guide for how strong your non-Force sensitive NPCs should/could be in comparison to the rest of your troop allotment.
5 could be Master equivalent in strength, while another 5 would only be Padawan equivalent in strength. Meaning their armour/strength/gear/development would be better than even a Commando.
From there, the only real decider for power, is just how well written you make those characters and their posts when fighting someone.
The whole NPC cannot be stronger than a PC caveat then just becomes something you need to discuss with the person you are writing against.
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