Mandalorians

IC, Plu believes that the Force is a tool, and that since he was born with it, he should learn how to use it. But he will not actively use it unless he has no other option. For example, if someone were trying to kill his family and the only way to save them was with the Force, then he would resort to Force use. And because he himself is hiding something, he's not going to turn in a fellow Mando for using the Force unless he believes that you are misusing it or are a genuine threat to the vode.

OOC, I largely believe that the Mandos should not allow force users at all, although I'm open to making (a small number of) exceptions. It does tend to make you an overly powerful RP character, but if someone does it and makes it work, I'll roll with it -- not going to tell other people what they can't write. I'd just advise against it and let it go at that.

And what I'm saying is, don't expect anyone to be happy about it, or to trust them. You are free to do whatever you want, but you have to accept that people will not like it. I am not sure if Reyn ever knew Plu was a force user, i don't think so. I can't tell you what to do and what to play, your RP is your own, all I can say is what i've seen come from this, and how traditionalists will view you.

I don't think Reyn ever knew IC. It wasn't as much of a secret in the old days as it is now, but I didn't exactly advertise it, either. Plu wanted to fit in, in spite of his origins.

If anyone dug deeply enough into his past and who he was and what he did as a young man (on 1.0), then they might realize the truth. But that was something like 30 years ago IC time.

It's all a moot point anyway because I'm pretty sure Plu won't be using the force again in open RP.

Err... Thanks Dan. I am utterly devastated by your comments. I will now be rethinking Corr's entire life and questioning every post I've ever made.

I can agree with the argument that a Mandalorian using the Force could be considered a valuable asset and could even argue Dan's statement that not all Mandalorians using force powers are powergaming munchkins. I could also refer to the fact that it is not unheard of in canon and is accepted in some circles. There will always be writers here that lean to one way and some to the other much the same was that the Mando's themselves leaned one way or the other. It is, like a lot of things, a matter of opinion.

The problem as I always looked at it is that Force using Mando's are supposed to be rare to the point of endangered. In fact, I know of only two in canon. Having Mandalorian leaders and hero's leaping around throwing TK everywhere gives the wrong image.

I would also argue that even if a Mando were Force Sensitive attributing similar abilities to Jedi and Sith is utter nonsense. They would possess only the most basic of abilities at best and would likely never develop any powers beyond a vague sense of things. It takes years of training to gain such attributes, years which a Mandalorian spends his/her time training in their own cultural inclinations. A Force sensitive Mando would have to train under a Jedi/Sith/Fallanassi or whatever to progress and, lets be honest, such cults would be mad to train a Mandalorian.

I wrote a Force Sensitive character. Like Pul it was before I knew better and in a time when if you didn't have Force powers you may as well bend over and get rogered by every other writer out there. I got creative with the back story and had sufficient interactions with IC force users to explain the ability to perform certain skills but EVEN THEN I always wrote the power as 1) half formed and unpredictable and 2) That he was ashamed of, and reluctant to use them. That made up for it in later years but as still a stretch by my reckoning.

Anyway. That's my ramble. You can, of course, write your characters as you see fit. That is both the beauty and curse of this site.

Edit: I missed two pages that I didn't realise were there though little of the above has changed. Again, I am a bad example to state Spectre. As much as I loved writing a Mando and had some small success as such, I was always a Jedi at heart. A Yavin Jedi at that, which seems rather frowned upon these days... I came across to the Mando's and based everything I wrote on characters like Reyn and Cassus Fett. Now you may look on the face of things and think that these two role models (for want of a better term) are completely different (One being Force sensitive and one not) but that is not the case at all. By then James was writing Cassus much as I have written Corr the last couple of years. Keeping the Force sensitivity on the down low. He never went as far as what I did with Corr in that I had Corr ashamed of his Force sensitivity, but he definitely shunned it towards the end. I wrote Corr at the end as manifesting the spirit of Kad, or having Kad guide his steps, in an effort to put any such force sensitivity as a divine power much like that of a Paladin. It was quite a bit of fun doing so. Anyway, I digress. Point is that I always based my Mando compass on Cassus and Reyn and I'd advise being guided by such in this. Giving the green light, in whatever aspect, to force use among Mando's is not going to endear you to 90% of Mandalorians IC (going by canon ) unless it is for such a small minority that would be pretty much indistinguishable from your average warrior anyway. (see above)

Irrelevant of opinion I truly believe these days that unless you have a backstory where your character was raised by Jedi/Sith/whatever and then adopted the Mandalorian way (Highly unlikely though not impossible) or was raised as a Mando and then trained with Jedi/Sith (again....) then there is literally no point in mentioning being, or in fact actually being, force sensitive apart from to say that your man can be "Lucky" every now and then. Its just not worth it.

One more edit: While I commend Dan on any victories against Force users in the past, and have done the same myself at times, nevertheless a trained Force User against a trained non-force user will win near every time unless there is a massive advantage in terms of tech, martial ability, or something to the non-force. Sorry but that's just the way it is. I get that if one trained as a warrior all his life then he maybe has a slight advantage but to have someone of an order like the Jedi/Sith, who are so obviously trained in combat, manifesting supernatural powers... game over man. Force speed and precog alone are enough.

Clone Mando's would likely be seen as abominations more than outsiders... At least to quite a few Mando's I know.

Well been away for a few months now; you know how life happens. Definitely don't expect to see the Mandos of old back to showing here and there (ie Corr, Reyn, Plu, etc). Happy to see you guys back. Anyways, on a more serious note, I'd like to relate back to the topic at hand.

I seem to recall that not long before life dragged me away from here, we were still on much of the same topic, being a Force Sensitive/User or equivalent. What I explained back then is my thoughts and relating to canon and the Resol'nare is better explained in the comments about from both Corr and Reyn. Where I wasn't able to really put what I really wanted to say into words, they have been about to do extraordinarily well if I do say so myself.

Main points in which they hit that i would like to add to are:

Force
As Corr was saying, "...Force using Mando's are supposed to be rare to the point of endangered. In fact, I know of only two in canon. Having Mandalorian leaders and hero's leaping around throwing TK everywhere gives the wrong image." That in my own opinion is the complete truth regarding that issue. Yes, I may write Cath as someone who hates and utterly despises everything about the Force, but that is not my OOC stance on the issue; it's just how I developed him as a character, so please don't try and relate me and my stance to that. Basically, the Force, both Sensitivity and Usage was few and far between, and even that in some instances is an understatement.

For anyone to say the have a Mandalorian with mastery in the Force in any way is shenanigans to me and would require evident proof in writing that it would even be remotely possible for their character to have learned abilities to that level. I have yet to come across any example in canon to back up why any Mandalorian would be a Master in using the force and until then I will not be able to accept any case of it without legitimate proof of years of training and then as to why/how they either became a part of the Mandalorian Culture and/or was not not cast from it when they would have left for years to train under someone who had the adequate knowledge and skill to train someone

Mandalorian Empire
It's hard for me to write this as an actual topic header as there should really be no such thing. Mandalorians were loosely knit together clans that ran themselves in a manner of speaking. The Mand'alor sat in no almighty throne nor was any kind of Emperor, Dictator, King, etc. When the time came and the Mand'alor called on the clans, more or less their reputation and the "strongest" among the culture should have been enough to rally the clans to a cause. And take note that I used the word "rally" and not "order." Mand'alor holds no immediate jurisdiction over any individual clan if recall right.

Also, to tag on, I believe that the "Mandalorian Empire" usergroup was initially created as a means to be able to distribute infomation to the Mandalorians as a whole. A distro group in a manner of speaking.


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So I believe thats about all I wanted to touch on besides letting you all know I haven't left yet, only had life get in the way for a bit. But if there's anything I think of I'll make sure to tage it on in later posts

Just to be clear there are technically no Wookiee slaves on Kashyyyk. I'm down to have more Mandos on Kashyyyk to help me out but that is something we would have to talk to Turlon about.

Hey everyone, looking to start up this new character of mine as a Mando, and would be interested in joining with you guys.