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Post by Galdaart Fel on Apr 18, 2018 18:14:36 GMT -8
We have rules here?
Hi. Sorry I'm late. I over-slept. Sorry if I'm showing up for the last dance, long after the punch bowl was spiked, and emptied.
I like that this is being discussed. And I love that there seems to be some concrete and constructive points here, and that the Whills and RPAs are weighing in. This is short, for now, because it's late and I'm a bit tired, but I love you all, and I love this site. Perceived flaws and all.
I'll post with more concrete (and hopefully, useful?) tomorrow, but in the meantime...
Sam -- mark me down as super-interested as being an RPA. I was a shit HC, but I was a damn good RPA. Could be again.
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Post by Shaman Chill on Apr 19, 2018 19:57:20 GMT -8
I've responded to a few of the comments here, but didn't intend to discourage further conversation. What can we do to break down walls and encourage people to write outside their comfort zones / interact with new people on the site? Would it help if the Whills sponsored site-wide events, whether they are planned or spontaneous? Or is this something for the community to solve collectively, by taking conscious peer-to-peer action?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2018 20:22:36 GMT -8
Site wide events could be something to consider at least trying out in the interest of attempting to encourage people to interact with those they might not usually write with. They would not even necessarily need to be Whill sponsored, in my opinion. Maybe members could propose scenarios every so often and then vote on the one(s) they would be most interested in participating in?
Another idea, though I'm not sure how it could be implemented, would be some way to make one's usual availability to write known? Some members are not able to be online daily due to real world commitments, or might, for instance, have a longer response time than others due to writing style or preference, while others are looking for quicker interaction. While we can always share that information when asked, and the profile has a place to make those kinds of things known, not everyone includes that kind of information on their profile, so having a place to do so could make it easier for members to find like-minded people to write with. Maybe there could be a thread somewhere for members to post, for example, an interest in finding others to write with in a quick-paced scenario. It could be another way to encourage members to step out of their comfort zones if there is someplace for them to find others also looking to do so.
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Post by Will Sontir on Apr 23, 2018 15:33:10 GMT -8
Just my 2 cents. I have been struggling to keep the enthusiasm and lead by example (and fail everytime) for some years now. But my main reason to lose spirit are 2 simple problems that don't have simple solutions.
The pace we work on getting storylines off the ground. We used to be so 'johnny on the spot' when it comes to community responses. But these days, even with fewer writers, it takes us soo long to get SLs moving, and we all are slow to respond; forcing us to create split timelines in order to keep our personal writing paces up. For me, I create split TLs and sometimes forget where I am because posting is so slow. Then I get a reply and forget to check back. Then as a writer, I find it a big challenge to jump back into the emotional mindset in order to provied that thread justice.
And because there are so few of us posting so infrequently, it's hard to get new writers engaged. I volunteered to take on 2 last month, and I lost one-- luckily Mikey helped me with that.
Then the bro networking and Discord planning. I jump on Discord and a lot of is just jovial funplay among old friends; but sometimes creativity pops up and plans get hashed out on there. Great to get things moving between 2 or 3 writers. But big narratives. .not so much.
Just my 2 cents. But I am trying to keep up.
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Post by Luxeria on Apr 23, 2018 15:54:07 GMT -8
On board planning is definitely something that’s good to think on, be it a larger encounter involving many people, such as the coming Felucia raid or even random ideas, even if for only a couple people. I, myself, never go to the chat and it’s hard to keep up with in going back to see what has happened. For the most part, I see that it does come here to be interacted with, so more as another friendly reminder more than what we need to try and do. Then again, I don’t know how many ideas get passed up on because of it.
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Post by Adrien Draykon on Apr 23, 2018 16:26:09 GMT -8
What if we had field for post frequency in our profiles? Something near the top so it's quick to find. Or divide JvS RP in to sections? Like one for quick-paced and one for casual, or something like that. Or we could build a template similar to the one in JotW for JvS RP.
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Mike Frantz
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Post by Mike Frantz on Apr 23, 2018 16:52:35 GMT -8
I think that a profile field would be more reasonable than essentially creating a slow and a fast paced site. The only real problem with that is for a lot of people that can be quite variable, some days they can make 12 posts and others they don't even have time to log into the site. An alternative could be a particular "spontanious" RP location(s) that are designed to give some "quick fix" RP scenarios while waiting for the somewhat slower general boards.
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Post by Adrien Draykon on Apr 23, 2018 17:02:13 GMT -8
Lol not a whole site, I meant sections in the "JvS RP planning" area
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Post by Adrien Draykon on Apr 23, 2018 17:09:40 GMT -8
This template from JotW could be altered and used to pitch your story (Name of Work)- Principal Authors: (list)
- Who can post on this thread: (list)
- I want to receive critical responses: Y/N
- I will be using standard Universe rules here (e.g., canon-only, fleet limits, etc.): Y/N
Location:Timeframe:(Abstract or Summary of Work)Read more: boards.jedivsith.com/thread/646/freewriting-faqs#ixzz5DY1Ln000
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Post by Mike Frantz on Apr 23, 2018 17:16:24 GMT -8
If we are basing it off the JoTW then wouldn't it make sense to add it as a part of them and just make them count as in universe interactions? or are you saying make a section in the RP planning thread to plan out the activities and then use in universe locations to realize them?
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Post by Adrien Draykon on Apr 23, 2018 17:19:21 GMT -8
The latter.
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Post by Adrien Draykon on Apr 23, 2018 17:28:39 GMT -8
For example:
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Post by Mike Frantz on Apr 23, 2018 17:31:58 GMT -8
I definitely like the idea of this. Although It's more an augment of our usual "this is what I want to do who's in" threads that we already make in the RP planning thread. So we could just implement it as a suggested format for RP planing in general. I'd also make a note that if this is supposed to be a continuous "spontaneous" rp area that th universe rules would always be in effect otherwise they may as well just use the JoTW.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Apr 23, 2018 17:38:20 GMT -8
I'd also further augment it to include what each side each person is on and what character they are using like if it's their current PC or an NPC or a new Alt they are making just for this. Something like this...
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Post by Adrien Draykon on Apr 23, 2018 17:53:50 GMT -8
That looks good and we could always add or alter depending on what people want and make it available in an easy copy/paste format in it's own special thread. Anyway, I think something like this will help keep people more happy and help keep them posting as expected barring outside circumstances.
It would also give people the freedom to skip past a slow poster because everyone had agreed upon a post speed.
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Post by Whill Shaman Kahul on Apr 23, 2018 18:02:54 GMT -8
Some interesting ideas flowing here. I like it. We've began discussing some of the ideas so please keep them coming, we are all watching this thread very closely for community feedback and ideas. It's good to see so many people having real positive input about what can be done to improve the site.
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Post by Adrien Draykon on Apr 26, 2018 21:49:45 GMT -8
So maybe we could do both the profile field and the template. The reasons why are pretty simple, if there are two places for that information to be displayed I think more people will do it, the profile will say a general approximation of how much they will be available to post while the template could be more of a commitment to whoever you decide to write with.
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Post by Adrien Draykon on Apr 26, 2018 22:07:41 GMT -8
Also, I think it would be great to have some site wide RP's going, I know they haven't worked well in the past but we need to plan better. For example before it was always be like "hey let's do a huge SL, here's a general outline, let's start right now." And it never worked because people were wrapped up in their own stories and failed to actually participate because they were busy.
Maybe instead, come up with a story, write up an outline and set a date to start it, that way people can move their personal stories in that direction. That way people would all be ready at the same time and have in character reasons to join up.
Just thinking out loud here, feel free to add in comments and suggestions.
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Post by Luxeria on Apr 27, 2018 6:09:01 GMT -8
Actually, at one time, I believe we were doing something like that. Planned a date for a certain rp which I think was attempted at once a month. Everyone would throw out ideas and scenarios that were decided on and details and those involved were hashed out. Not sure why it stopped but it would be good to try again.
There has been some increased work in the planning area with planning and creating some larger rps, though despite trying to span out to others, it still relates mostly to the groups revolving around it. This will allow for anyone anywhere to get involved without being a story more focused towards one or two groups.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Apr 27, 2018 8:38:10 GMT -8
Yes It had been a thing in the past but generally failed for one reason or another. I like the idea of having a general story idea and going "we are going to start on X date" and just going for it. We could also give the post frequency idea a test run and use it to keep things moving along. I definitely think we should avoid trying for one a month like we have in the past but it might not be a bad idea to try to have one going and when it gets finished it's finished and we can start up a new one. That way no one feels pressured to rush through and get it done before the end of the month, as long as people are still participating in it and it's still an interesting story we keep going with it.
I can't guarantee that it'll be more successful than any of our other attempts in the past but it's at least worth a try, we can always scrap the idea if the first one is a total flop.
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