Jedi Council OOC planning

Not to be a nay sayer, because I like where this dialogue is heading; but just 2 not so small points and suggestions.

(1) I found it profoundly disturbing when I had chat convo's with ranking members of the High Council that had no idea of goings ons of the Order as a whole, what missions were going on and who were heading them up and where. Like Dav, Jago and Adi have pointed out, being on the High Council OOC and IC, you have innate responsibilities to not be hermits; to be in touch; and, yes, be good deligaters and sensitive leaders in the loosest of terms (just for you Mikey). If you are a part of the Council, at least be in the know. That's my point; and no, Mikey, I am not vetting for a slot. I am vetting for leaders who are in touch and are aware.

(2) and a much smaller note. I am for transparency of decisions that effect the Order OOC and IC, and I understand the RARE need for anonymity; but perhaps the Council can chat on a locked board? Just a thought, we can read but not post. Also, as High Council people, they should have head administrative duties, and therefore should be accessible. I, quite honestly, don't feel half the Council is accessible. I don't think a full Council vote needs to be called for ever movement. I think a High Councilor should be at the core of every major movement the Jedi do in THEIR NAME. for sure. and that is simple to give a holocom channel check in; a hand "crossing" given by the Bishop to some spry knight as blessings to fight the good fight. All members of the Council should be able and willing to do that for the entire Order. "Go forth my child and peace be apon you" and young knights can be all wide-eyed meeting a Council member; or fiercly determined to make them proud, etc. etc. The High Council is a crucial part of canon and to our JvS lore. And should be treated thussly.

Well, personally, I don't like having people looking over my shoulder whilst my thoughts are still formative and in the work-in-progress stage. People still tend to send PMs and start alternative threads and call other people out, even if the thread they're having the discussion on is locked and read-only, and I've seen it happen where people have got angry and even offensive over a half-throw-away thought on an in progress discussion, and started vast arguments as a result, when the person who said it wasn't even settled on it and was merely speculating or considering options. Not everyone understands that it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it.

There's also the fact that some decisions do lay with us, and we would prefer to deliberate them in private whilst we make up our minds. Mostly for reasons related to the above. If you were one of the RP leaders in an RP, and you were just hashing out some ideas with the other leaders over Skype before you put it up for all to see, how would you feel if they demanded to see all your Skype logs on the matter?

If we start forcing the Council to do things like post only in read-only threads and make everything visible to everyone, it becomes to formalised and entirely too serious, and puts a lot more pressure on us when, yes, though we are OOC leaders, this is still meant to be fun for us too. Ultimately, you don't need to see our PM discussions, because you always see the results if the results are worth seeing. Myself, Aer, and Jago between us almost always put the information out there virtually right away.

I agree with what Dav and Adi have already said about transparency; there needs to a be a certain degree of it, certainly, but not to the point half or even less complete thoughts and ideas are tossed out to be hashed over, which would benefit no one and make working with thoughts and ideas and so on kind of intimidating or annoying and probably . . . wait for it ;p . . . stifle creativity and other such stuff. What i've taken away from the discussion is that we, as the Council, should try and make more of an effort to let everyone know what we're bandying about and pondering on and so, for my part, I promise to do my best to see that we do just that going forward.

Proving Dav's point about how we, as a Council, tend to agree on things, I agree with what he's said on what has been said so far ;p The only thing I'd add is that I think we could use Alkor's idea and a few others that have been voiced about the OOC response team-ish thing and make it work. The sign-up sheet-y thing that Alkor started is a good start, since it lets everyone lay out what kinds of RP they would like to pursue and, using that, we can have a rough idea of who to reach out to when RP opportunities pop up based on what the story/ situation calls for and what people are looking for and so on. I don't see a need for an IC/ formalized group of Jedi that respond to things if we can get an idea of the Jedi that are usually up for certain kinds of RP and can get them involved in them. The roster and knowing everyone's skills will make that much easier.

Perhaps if we are willing to be part of that 'first response' team, we can note it on the topic Alky created?

Very good idea. I'm posting up on there now and will include that detail in my post.

I would say it's always good to air concerns, even (maybe especially) when it seems you're the minority.  Helps us (as an Order) iron out wrinkles.  And, you may find you are actually not alone...though you might be.  Hard to say until a thing is fully known.

Besides, I always like a good devil's advocate.