Dav Man'Sell
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Post by Dav Man'Sell on Aug 7, 2013 3:24:06 GMT -8
Hey, just because my chair is comfy, doesn't mean it isn't in action. I'll have you know that my comfy chair is the flight seat of my X-Wing! And my other comfy chair is in my Senator's Senate Pod.
Where's your comfy chair, Adi? Where's yours?
That's right, the refresher facilities.
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Corr
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Post by Corr on Aug 7, 2013 5:12:56 GMT -8
My comfy chair is a Jetii corpse....
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Post by Adi on Aug 7, 2013 5:49:22 GMT -8
I don't have to sit down during battle....I'm not ancient like you, Dav....
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Post by Dav Man'Sell on Aug 7, 2013 7:48:06 GMT -8
With age, comes wisdom. And with wisdom, comes such badassery that I don't have to stand up to win a fight.
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Post by Adi on Aug 7, 2013 8:42:04 GMT -8
I think its just the fact you are old, and decrepit...you are in the 'rocking chair' age group. LOL. No one has the heart to attack you anymore cuz you are that old. On a more serious note, and I know it seems like I'm harping, but we need to either get Ossus and Yavin going....or we need to figure out how we progress without them....everything is stalled, AGAIN. It's starting to get old, truthfully. My team is about half gone, and more are about to leave. We are already at half strength, combat ineffective, and not able to hold against ANYONE truthfully. Everyone got bored, and moved on to better things, I suppose, I dont know....but I can't say Im happy about it. We have a lot of people who want to RP, but cant, due to the inactivity on other fronts. It's getting old hearing my team asking me where we stand, and I have nothing for them. Yes, I know, "Real lives come first.". Totally aware of this fact, and I don't disagree. But waiting weeks for a single post? Its bordering on the ridiculous. We are literally waiting on one or two people to get moving, and they just -wont-. Things need to get moving, or we just need to let the RP die naturally. Sorry to be mean about it, but SOMETHING had to be said for the people that are waiting....and HAVE been waiting since April. Its AUGUST, for crying out loud. We haven't moved past day one on Yavin? I find that a little disheartening. We have some epic writers, let's stop leaving them hanging in a void, eh?
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Will Sontir
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Post by Will Sontir on Aug 7, 2013 11:21:44 GMT -8
I am currently fighting Mandos on Dressel and assembling the team to run the blockade on Yavin while simultaneously breathing life into the Republic.
I don't know why Yavin days are not moving forward though.
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on Aug 7, 2013 13:56:25 GMT -8
Because they are all old fuddy-duddies. I'm just play, but it does need to get a move on ...
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Devlin Dewe
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Post by Devlin Dewe on Aug 7, 2013 14:13:09 GMT -8
Hey, don't look at me, I'm the only one on Ossus...so...yeah... Trying to get some kind of RP going (anything really) while waiting for the Mandos to knock on our door...but, it's hard to RP a planet without a population...not that that's an excuse, just saying where I'm at. I think everyone got bored and left or had something happen RL that's keeping them away.
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Corr
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Post by Corr on Aug 7, 2013 14:44:52 GMT -8
Patience needed. I'm waiting on Mer for Dressel. Ossus isn't really in my hands though I could probably give it a prod. I can probably ove the fleet stuff along independent of the stuff on Dathomir, though I'm not sure where half the Mando's are these days. Yavin is moving along, honestly. Its just that a lot of the SLs are real time.
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Ander Tagira
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Post by Ander Tagira on Aug 7, 2013 16:41:00 GMT -8
A few things I think will help: First: If you're waiting on someone to post, and they're taking forever, take stock of what their response requires. If it's calling/denying a hit, that can be circumvented by getting allowance from the writer themselves, allowing a second post to be made in order to allow the "bigger picture" part of the story to continue. If posts require some density in the response, then that writer needs to either be notified about it until they do (barring actual RL problems), and foregone if they aren't. Second: Keep in mind our own individual schedules. I have a baby on the way in the next couple of weeks, I'm still unpacking and setting up my new place (without the help of a spouse considering her current condition lol) and am in school while juggling a dozen other RL issues. But I am ready to admit that half the time I don't respond to a post on time is laziness. I'll know what I need to write, where and how, but I'll put it off regardless. I'm working on getting over that, though, and have been ready to get things going for a while. Third, and lastly for now: We need to allow for more decisions to be made at the discretion of the writers available. Barring the alteration of major plot points in the SL's we have going, we need to avoid differing all of our decisions to the same handful of people. I hear a lot of "Well, ask David/Dav, or Rob/Ashrah" etc and so forth. As long as certain decisions on story do not require those specific individuals' outputs, or affect the bigger picture in a significant way, they can be made by the writers available. That's what I've got for now. I'm unfortunately still out of it as far as knowing who's-who a lot of the time. Maybe I need to spend more time in Chat. I hope that all helped.
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Dav Man'Sell
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Post by Dav Man'Sell on Aug 7, 2013 16:56:09 GMT -8
All makes sense.
So, that said, Ossus. Does anyone really really need anything from anyone else to get that ball rolling?
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Post by Devlin Dewe on Aug 7, 2013 18:20:25 GMT -8
Sorry, I just meant don't look at me for holding things up. I know things happen. I'm good with rolling at whatever pace. I'm used to the slow crawl.
As far as what's needed for Ossus? As far as I can tell from my correspondence, it's just a matter of getting some sort of story going to actually interrupt. I think the Jedi are just kind of in a holding pattern, waiting with baited breath for the Mandos to arrive and crash the party.
I guess everyone is waiting for someone else to take the lead. All I'm saying is, I'm ready whenever the Mandos want to tangle. I mean, I know--at least from what I've read and discussed with Corr--that there aren't as many Mandos as Jedi writers, so they're going to be stretched thin. So, I understand the slower pace. It's tough to keep things organized. Especially when they get hectic as wars tend to do. So, just send a battle group/fleet/strike force/landing party, narrate the beginning of an attack. I can run it--though it'll be mostly written from the Jedi perspective--if needed. I think we're all pretty aware of what needs to happen. As much as I'd like there to be RP and my fellow writers would too, I'm certain; if push comes to shove, we can write it with minimal Mando writers involved. Or we can wait for more Mandos to come and help bolster the ranks. Either way, I'm flexible.
The way I was thinking it was going to go down was a battle as the background and PC character development in the foreground. Whether PvP or PvE or something, I'm not sure. Not sure if it really matters too much to nail it down or if we'd rather go with the flow around a certain pre-planned story or predetermined plot points.
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Post by Will Sontir on Aug 7, 2013 19:14:26 GMT -8
Guys, if you thought this was going to be a clean RP, you are extremely naive. Corr is doing the best he can with the resources he has, the Mando writers are few and far between (which will speak to the success of their Holy War to begin with, ;-) ) he is almost literally all over the place. As is, for the most part Dav. Ander, I respect the whole "I got shit to take care of" but you didn't help your case by claiming your laziness. Nut up or shut up. Points for honesty. But if you say "don't wait for the heavy hitters" then put your money where your mouth is and post. With being said, I need to apologize for singling you out because you are simply one in a dozen writers who have the same problem-- so don't feel like I am persecuting you; that isn't the point here. The point is not to "practice what we preach" but "preach what we already practice"
Now, with that in mind, as a not a head narrator but a key a writer, what else can i do to help your storylines along? Should I try and be more jedi? Should I kick ass quicker? Should I write as another Mando (i've offered to do it, just not told where)? Help me, help you.
And how the hell does Dathomir fit in here. I really feel like these RPs are getting muddled in the SLs. Like too many trees in the forest.
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Post by Adi on Aug 7, 2013 20:28:37 GMT -8
With Ossus being down to one writer, is it really smart to hold a battle there? I mean, we need 'teams' on the ground, and for the PC's in the forefront...not one PC. Granted, not many planets on the Jedi side have a ton of RPers, save for Yavin, but still. It isnt fair to ask Dev to be the only one to defend Ossus....even if he would be willing to do so for the betterment of the RP.
Dav, you've said there are a lot of Jedi writers on Yavin writing side stories to the war, but they aren't progressing the main story much, if at all. You guys can't forget, this isn't just Yavin anymore...this is nearly site-wide. I know that you guys are writers who take your time in making posts, and it shows in the quality of writing, to be sure. You guys are some of the best on the site. But, when you wait on one or two people on the Yavin side, and the Mando can't advance -their- part of the story on the planet, it holds up not only Yavin, but also the rest of the war as a whole. Four months...plus what we did from December to February before the site crashed...for one day of RP? It's a little much to ask of anyone to swallow. I completely understand that there are RL commitments to be had....I have a lot of them myself, including work, family, and a social life. I still manage a post about every two to three days, when things are moving. Right now, Im able to average about one post per week, to ensure we don't move too far out in front of you guys.
I knew it was going to be something that took a long time when I signed on, as did most people who put their names out there for the RP. I knew it wasn't going to be a cut-and-dried, 'clean' RP as Will said. What I didn't expect is taking til now to get into about a half-day into the war. I'm not asking for sloppy, half-assed RP, TOTALLY not what Im asking for. Im not asking for rush jobs, or pushing beyond your limits, or cutting into your real life duties....at ALL. What I'm asking for is at least SOME kind of progression, as are a lot of writers who would like to actually get into the meat of a part of the story. There are storylines, opportunities for character advancement, and tons of fun to be had, but we need to move a little bit.
Now, and I know I've brought this up before, but with all the writers on Yavin right now, why can't it be taken temporarily in lieu of Ossus, due to the lack of a full team on the big O? Now, before you get all up at arms about me wanting to change the storyline, hear me out. Yavin is one of the Jedi's greatest bastions at this time...has been since 1.0. The Jedi team there is nothing less than stellar, and a shining example of what we should aspire to be, but it seems like you guys are holding on to it with all you have OOC. Its just a planet....a set of boards on a roleplaying site. You guys have already given a lot, what with reducing the effectiveness of the defenses as you have already, but let's face it....If the Mandalorians were there in the force you are claiming to allow them to be, they'd roll over the defenders like a herd of elephants. Let's lose something valuable to the Jedi cause. Honoghr is on the chopping block, too. I believe Corr is working out, or has worked out something with Ice to do so. We are all losing a lot...friends, territory, and some of us are losing pretty much everything that's near and dear to them, myself included. If we really want to show that the Mando are kicking our asses, then let's LET them do it. Let them push us back into a corner. Let them beat us up, and think they have beaten us into submission. We have the ability, the strength, and the writing teams to take pretty much everything back, and truthfully, it'll be difficult for the bucketheads to stop us once we put our collective minds to it. I know, it's a huge sacrifice to let go of something that you've built for so long...even for a short time...but ultimately? You can write like you guys do -anywhere- on the site. It might even spark some new RP for you, a story angle you may not have thought of. The RP that the Mandalorians bring is just as stellar as anything we can do as well....the planet wont suffer, nor will the rating. If anything, it'll be boosted with the diverse RP that they bring to the table. They are skilled, smart, and I am sure they would be willing to work within some limits.
I guess what I'm asking is....let's get out of our comfort zones, and really tear this RP up, make it AWESOME! It will mean working with different people, getting out in the universe, and doing what we are supposed to do....have fun with a game that's so much a part of our lives with people that are some of the best writers I've ever had the privilege of working with....Yes, that means even you, Mike Frantz.....*snrk*. I'm not trying to be an asshole with this...I'm really not. But sometimes, someone has to be 'that guy' that says something. That is usually the role I play, and play it well.
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Post by Alkor Centaris on Aug 7, 2013 20:40:13 GMT -8
Alright. New tactic. Pick six planets, roll a die, and we strike the corresponding planet. Go.
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Post by Najiyah on Aug 8, 2013 1:54:14 GMT -8
Hello, this might be the wrong thread, but I'm new and wondered if you guys were recruiting? I'm looking to RP as a Jedi/Lightsided character
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Post by Will Sontir on Aug 8, 2013 9:47:23 GMT -8
For the record, Yavin is super active because they are pretty sweet but also because of this RP. Corellia has a team sitting around waiting to do something. Hit it, why not. Me and Mikey can be tipped off, recalled and Corellia has already experienced Masters at the helm.
And newcomer: you've come to the right place. We are just discussing a massive Roleplay we've been working on for a long time.
So how did you want to start?
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Post by Adi on Aug 8, 2013 10:46:16 GMT -8
Corellia absolutely works
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Post by Ander Tagira on Aug 8, 2013 11:17:52 GMT -8
Guys, if you thought this was going to be a clean RP, you are extremely naive. Corr is doing the best he can with the resources he has, the Mando writers are few and far between (which will speak to the success of their Holy War to begin with, ;-) ) he is almost literally all over the place. As is, for the most part Dav. Ander, I respect the whole "I got shit to take care of" but you didn't help your case by claiming your laziness. Nut up or shut up. Points for honesty. But if you say "don't wait for the heavy hitters" then put your money where your mouth is and post. With being said, I need to apologize for singling you out because you are simply one in a dozen writers who have the same problem-- so don't feel like I am persecuting you; that isn't the point here. The point is not to "practice what we preach" but "preach what we already practice" Now, with that in mind, as a not a head narrator but a key a writer, what else can i do to help your storylines along? Should I try and be more jedi? Should I kick ass quicker? Should I write as another Mando (i've offered to do it, just not told where)? Help me, help you. And how the hell does Dathomir fit in here. I really feel like these RPs are getting muddled in the SLs. Like too many trees in the forest. I hear you man, and no offense taken. I wasn't trying to sound hypocritical as well, so my apologies for that. Part of my point was to acknowledge my own moments of unexcused inactivity, giving evidence to something we all know to be true. And as I said, I'm getting better at that. My latest postings on Yavin 4, unfortunately do rely too heavily on Ashrah/other Mandos before I can proceed. By applying my aforementioned formula, I'd be skipping passed responses that covered crucial RP points, so I am kind of stuck in that matter. Though I do have other forces that could be covered and attended to, so I've been putting time and posts into them as well. (My posts usually cover two or more characters) I am also, after Dav brought it up the other day, working to drum up activity on Yavin Station, and have put three posts up that are awaiting open responses from anyone else wanting in, be they on the Jedi or Mando side of things. My point was more "don't wait for the heavy hitters, IF their responses aren't crucial and they are unable to post for extended periods of time." Though that goes for any respondent who is unable to post for too long. Some OOC collaboration (because sometimes it's easier to just text/message someone than it is get a full response post out of them), can be utilized so that minor responses can be covered by those ready to post. For example, if I'm waiting for someone to respond to an attack post I write, and it only consists of accepting/avoiding a hit, then if I can just get guidance from them on the call they are wanting to make, then I can manufacture a response from that and allow the writing to continue, especially if other writers were involved in the scenario, waiting for that first person as well. (I hope that all makes senseā¦) If you are looking for more chars to write, you can pick up one of mine. Ander isn't working strictly AS a Mandalorian (he's not a clan member), but he is associated by heritage and of course the fact that he's there on Yavin 4 helping with the invasion, so you could pick up one of our characters and still be working on that side. If you're interested, I can easily let you know the where and when, and we can get some good posts up that way! (It has been a tad boring writing our entire side of the force alone. My other writer has just had to replace his computer and hasn't been able to jump back in yet.) Adi: Not a bad idea, then again, it's not my place to give a "yay" or "nay" on the whole thing. But I will say that the impression I had been getting while we were sorting out the details of this RP was that while Yavin was to face subjugation for a time, they were to become a sort of rally point for the counter-offensive against the Mandalorians, who weren't just going to stop after being forced back off of Yavin, but rather spread the war to other worlds. If Yavin is "lost," so to speak, then that rally point goes missing. And you yourself said they hold a large collection of good writers. Well, if the planet is lost, then the organization that comes from it as lost as well as many of those resources (if it's done realistically, they won't just be able to shove off and save all their skins and gear). With them being the largest writers pool we have, we'll need that resource for a proper organization of the counter-war parts of the RP. It's not like the Jedi could simply organize around Dev and Ossus, get what I mean? Back to Will: You mentioned sitting around on Corellia. Well, I've got a fighting force on the Mando side that's only utilizing about 3/4 our total strength for operations there. If you want, we can set something up within a day or two (I do have a chem project to finish this weekend lol) and I could bring some of those guys by for some sort of offensive that could show that the conflict is indeed spreading, at least on the Mando side of things.
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Post by Adi on Aug 8, 2013 11:41:13 GMT -8
Ander, yes...they would be a little less than 100 percent strength....but what happens in a war? The side that is hit like ours was is scattered, and have to regroup. That is exactly what I'm suggesting....and what I meant by getting out of our comfort zones. Rally points can be anywhere, there are literally dozens of planets we could use....Hell, we could use Tython....and it would make IC sense for us, too....
Why we have to be stuck on one planet all the time is part of the issue. We need to get mobile...moving....out there in the universe instead of stuck on a single planet. Seriously, why -couldn't- a writing team stay together on another planet? They can write just as well on one world as another. It doesn't have to be a planet someone else is using either....
And if they want it back, it doesn't have to be permanent.....We can take it back. We have the ability to do so as a group...as an Order. This is the first true test of the Jedi Order as a whole, as I see it. Our first real challenge. I believe we are up to it, once we get our shit together...don't you?
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