Krennel Gulch
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Post by Krennel Gulch on Nov 11, 2017 15:21:25 GMT -8
Anyone wanting to raid the bejesus out of some crappie GA planet?
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Post by Commander Oryon Melan on Nov 11, 2017 16:34:34 GMT -8
Again, wrong account, sorry.
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Artemis Mortem
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Post by Artemis Mortem on Nov 11, 2017 18:39:00 GMT -8
Would very much like to raid the bejesus out of some crappy GA planet.
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Post by Xakire on Nov 11, 2017 20:33:21 GMT -8
I too would love to raid the bejesus out of some crappy GA planet.
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Post by Krzesimir Viggo on Nov 11, 2017 21:03:47 GMT -8
I'd be happy to assist however I can.
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Post by Commander Oryon Melan on Nov 12, 2017 7:36:45 GMT -8
Excellent. Gentlemen, I therefore suggest we unite our fleets and raid the bejesus out of a very crappy GA planet, and a loved spot of the Jedi Order. I propose we raid the bejesus out of crappy Felucia.
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Post by Vasari on Nov 12, 2017 8:10:21 GMT -8
So you just wanna cut the entire aspect of war out of the picture and raid the seat of the Jedi order in the Galaxy thereby uniting the combined armies of the Jedi and the galactic republic without weakening either or without leaving you a practical means of escape in that sector of space?
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Post by Commander Oryon Melan on Nov 12, 2017 8:18:26 GMT -8
Well, you can retreat down the Tanaab hyperlane, to bring you back into the Imperial core at Kuat - Felucia is well placed for assault from the side.
As for the Jedi... Considering they're already in the war and the Knights of Ren have already torched the library on Ossus, so I don't see the problem there.
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Post by Vasari on Nov 12, 2017 9:25:26 GMT -8
They got everything out of the Library they wanted before the attack, they were ready and offered only marginal resistance because they seem to know what you don't. You pick your battles. They had no hope of winning that and they knew it. but if you attack Felucia on a whim with a rag tag force of fleets you're going smash your full force against their orbital defenses and their home defense fleets and their Faction ship that is stationed in Orbit, then after that the call they send out will have you surrounded before you reach the planet as their attack fleets are recalled to defend their Capital.
Combat tactics sir... I suggest you return to the Academy and leave the Decisions for invasion to Nic and his HIGH admirals.
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Post by Commander Oryon Melan on Nov 12, 2017 10:03:58 GMT -8
Well firstly, not to sound like a grammar nazi, but you are referring to strategy, rather than tactics. Secondly, lightspeed is, as the name would suggest, the speed of light. It takes time for a distress signal to reach the combat fleets, and then even more time for those fleets to retreat back. How do you think the Sith held the capital of the Republic to ransom? Thirdly, should my fleet begin to retreat, they are practically safe upon entry into hyperspace - ignoring the use of immobilisers - as the only chance of a reinforcing fleet catching them once they were both racing towards each other at the speed of light is exceptionally improbable, the only way it would work is for them to literally collide, the chances of which are insanely low.
Now, defense fleets, orbital defenses and faction ships are a problem, but that's what makes it fun.
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Post by Vasari on Nov 12, 2017 10:52:32 GMT -8
I actually was considering quoting Hunt for Red October when I said combat tactics... I changed my mind and just didn't correct myself. *shrugs* I don't need to argue with you about the rest, I feel like I've already made my opinion known, but Im not even a part of the First Order's navy so... do what you want man. *Thumbs up*
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Post by Xakire on Nov 12, 2017 12:42:30 GMT -8
I think Vasari is right. Felucia is not a very good target both for IC character reasons as Vasari explained but also because I'd imagine that Nicademus Delvardus IV has made somewhat scripted plans with the other side and I don't think raiding such a planet now without speaking to the people running the war storyline as a whole is a good idea.
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Post by Soku Ren on Nov 12, 2017 12:53:41 GMT -8
Felucia has a lot of stake in it. That, and we do not know for sure its actual value IC. If anything, scouting would be a more appropriate step, and that is a setup I or Harnan would have to provide; neither of us have yet. If anything, it should indeed be the site of a climactic battle, not a seemingly-random raid.
Just an observation, you sure do seem to enjoy using the term "crappy" repeatedly...
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Post by Vasari on Nov 12, 2017 13:03:21 GMT -8
Felucia has been the home of the Jedi Order for a long time. The planet has a very strong RP connection to the Force and many warriors of the light and Darkside have journeyed there for such a reason. its core also holds one of the Strongest Darkside Force Nexi in the Galaxy which the Jedi have been attempting to quell for many years on JvS (there was even a war fought over it on 1.5). The VALUE of the planet for me at least is that connection to the Darkside - putting a few Sith Lords on that planet could undo everything the Jedi have been trying to do there for the last decade.
Value for the First Order... the Knights of Ren didn't get much when they took Ossus - I would assume because everything was moved to Felucia. The Library on Felucia is by no means as grand as the one on Ossus, but that is where I would have put anything that made it off Ossus until a suitable replacement could be found. If the Knights of Ren didn't find what they wanted there... it is most assuredly on Felucia - guarded by almost every Jedi Player in the Galaxy. It by no means a "Crappy" planet - and Felucia's fall would be a great victory for the First Order but a loss there would be crippling as well.
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Post by Soku Ren on Nov 12, 2017 13:08:53 GMT -8
To clarify, by "value" I more meant to the Jedi Order and the Galactic Alliance, but all good points.
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Post by Xakire on Nov 12, 2017 13:14:25 GMT -8
There's so many other GA planets out there. We don't need to go for Felucia. It would be just as easy and fun for us to raid some other GA planet.
Let's leave Felucia for whatever this storylines leaders have worked out OOC? As much as IC I'd love to destroy the Jedi Order, OOC we shouldn't go and destroy what the writers there have been building. Not like this anyway.
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Post by Commander Oryon Melan on Nov 12, 2017 13:52:52 GMT -8
Hush. We're attacking Naboo. The thought of Felucia was a bit of craic but you fellows are right - thus, we attack the site of the beginning of the Clone Wars!
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Post by Vasari on Nov 12, 2017 14:29:32 GMT -8
Technically the clones wars began on Geonosis... note the similarity to the word Genesis... which is 'the beginning'.
ironically enough after Mace Windu's failed assassination attempt Sidius turned everything around on him and labled him as the one who started the clone wars to take over the galactic republic. Sidius even went so far as to say that Mace Windu ordered the Attack on Geonosis, which was a violation of a perfectly legal public execution by the Geonosian government. Labeling both him and the entire Jedi Order as traitors allowed him to blame the clones wars completely on them.
but its ok...
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Post by Commander Oryon Melan on Nov 12, 2017 14:36:07 GMT -8
And the whole thing spiralled from the manipulation of the Trade Federation into a blockade of Naboo and the following legal action against them drove one of the richest corporations in the galaxy into the CIS. Yeah, the war started in Geonosis, but it wouldn't have happened without Naboo or a similar situation to Naboo. But it's all pedantic really. It'll be fun to blow up Theed.
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Post by Xakire on Nov 12, 2017 17:35:04 GMT -8
Perhaps we should start a thread or PM to start planning?
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