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Post by Devlin Dewe on Nov 13, 2013 14:57:41 GMT -8
Ah. Well, it was just a suggestion. No worries. I wasn't sure if there was still a place for them or not. One more suggestion: do we want to send a message out to the different Jedi groups to let all the Jedi know there is a vote? Though, theoretically, they should be checking in on this thread from time-to-time. I'm not trying to get more votes for myself (but, if that happens, it's a pleasant bonus  ), just trying to make certain every Jedi's voice is heard. I'd hate for anyone to feel left out. |
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 13, 2013 15:23:42 GMT -8
Honestly I think we will get the majority of people from word of mouth and the others.... Well it's not like it's super hard to see. And I hate large scale messaging, but it's up to you folks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 15:25:14 GMT -8
So, I don't know if this is pertinent, but the last HC technically had 2 Knight Advisor positions. Do we still want to keep those available? Is there even any interest from Knight level Jedi? Are the 5 HCs enough, currently, for the consolidated/consolidating Order? |
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Post by Raylia Venci on Nov 15, 2013 12:29:43 GMT -8
Stupid question.
There were 3 other councils who helped out the HC with specific tasks. One of these was the Council of First Knowledge which governed archives, learning at academies and the Jedi Shadows, whom they dispatched to locate and destroy Sith related stuff.
Would anyone mind terribly if I had Raylia be a member of the CoFK, and dispatch a Shadow here and there to deal with Sith stuff as she needs them to? (Not leading the Shadows group. Just want to be clear on that, however with Sin as my main, I'm in a unique position to know who of my DT peeps would be interested in a one on one mission trying to outsmart a Shadow over a tome or artifact or ruin.)
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Post by Ael Jade on Nov 15, 2013 13:26:10 GMT -8
I have no problems with that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 13:40:35 GMT -8
none that i see either.
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Post by Adi on Nov 15, 2013 14:06:16 GMT -8
If its just a mission here and there, I'm ok with it.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 15, 2013 14:24:38 GMT -8
I have a problem with it... But if you slide enough Corellian spiced rum my way I may be able to overlook it.
Although on a serious not that could be something included in the first IC "masters meeting"
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Post by Raylia Venci on Nov 15, 2013 14:30:15 GMT -8
I figured I would just make it part of her backstory since she's an archaeologist to begin with. Plus I don't want to bog down a meeting that big with something like that. We have more than enough people in there and stuff we need to "discuss".
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Post by Devlin Dewe on Nov 15, 2013 15:39:06 GMT -8
Well, I was sort of the go-to for the Shadows on the old HC; but since I'm probably not getting re-elected (bias against hermits), I say go ahead. It's all yours. I almost said, "m'lady"; then remembered who I was talking to...is it okay to call Ray "m'lady"? I just don't know the rules anymore.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 15, 2013 16:02:35 GMT -8
There are no rules, the first act of the new council will be to spread anarchy throught the galaxy.
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Post by Devlin Dewe on Nov 15, 2013 16:24:15 GMT -8
Also, I think it's always been the plan/goal/dream to have enough Jedi to fill the other 3 councils, too.
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Post by Adi on Nov 15, 2013 16:27:25 GMT -8
Well, let's see if we can get enough to do so.  |
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Post by Will Sontir on Nov 15, 2013 16:39:39 GMT -8
Let's just try to focus on the what Jedi we have and how best to serve them, and how to get the Order integrated in the greater collaborative community.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 15, 2013 17:02:36 GMT -8
I don't know, having those councils (or some of them) might not be a bad way to collaborate and get the Jedi organized, I'm not saying that it's something super important that needs done this second but it's something to consider. Even if it was just appointing someone to lead those councils and letting them fill the ranks. But like I said its nothing mandatory but definitely something that should be discussed.
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Post by Devlin Dewe on Nov 15, 2013 17:05:30 GMT -8
Okay, so here's a breakdown from canon (not that anyone's interested): (For those who don't mind a lot of words in a post, continue. For the majority, though, the Wookiepedia links are for you.) Traditionally each Council is made up of Jedi Masters The High Council12 members Guide the Order Served as an advisory body for the office of Supreme Chancellor of the Republic The Council of First Knowledge5 members Oversee Academies/Praxeums and the Archives Responsible for eradicating any trace of Sith teachings and their artifacts in the galaxy Work with/lead the Jedi ShadowsThe Council of Reassignment5 members Lead the Jedi Service Corps
Agricultural Corps
Medical Corps
Led by the Circle of Healers
Educational Corps
Overseen by the Librarian's Assemby (though apparently also reports directly to the Council of First Knowledge)
Led by the Chief Librarian
Exploration Corps
Made up of Jedi Ambassadors, Aces, and ResearchersMonitor Jedi Initiates and Padawans, and work with those who do not pass the Trials The Council of Reconciliation5 members Negotiate with political factions both inside and outside the Galactic Republic Work closely with the Republic Diplomatic Corps Served the Jedi by passing judgement on those who fell to the dark side The Jedi Watchman are and extension of this council
Watchmen are trusted to make their own decisions without checking with the Council of Reconciliation or the High CouncilI'd mention how long each member traditionally held office; but since we've decided to hold elections every year, it's moot. A PC on the HC could potentially also be one of the other 3 councils in canon...but we don't have to go that route, if that's not how the main of the Order wishes to do it. Personally, (not that anyone cares) I'd almost like to see enough Jedi fill these roles without double dipping. Also, we could wave the Master requirement for other councils, if there's enough interest. |
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Post by Adi on Nov 15, 2013 17:15:06 GMT -8
Well, we could incorporate that into the council being nominated now. Maybe instead of having just High Council duties, a council member or two could represent the various 'other' councils. Like, if Adi were nominated to the High Council, he could also be in the "Council of Reconciliation', seeing as he is Watchmen Lead at the moment.
Just an idea, to kind of give the HC members something to do other than just chill on Coruscant.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 15, 2013 17:17:25 GMT -8
If we do decide I implement these groups (which I'm all for by the way) I don't know if we would really need the council of reassignment mostly because we all pass the trials around here. Haha. Plus that would open us up to fill those other councils. Although since we only have 5 on the HC I think that at most we would need only 3 on the other ones. And I agree that knights that are willing would be allowed in any of those councils. And to be honest if we find enough people willing to fill out those councils I personally don't see any reason not to have them.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Nov 15, 2013 17:18:47 GMT -8
In response to Adi: we could make it so that one of the members is also on the HC mostly to aid with communication and all that fun stuff. And to give us something to do of course
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Post by Will Sontir on Nov 15, 2013 17:26:33 GMT -8
Something to consider, but as much as I know and love this community, once an idea gets introduced we rabbit trail down it and lose focus on the task at hand. Right now, the issue is we are too few, lets strengthen and bolster in the consolidation, and then expand again. Time ebb and flows, we are ebbing now, let's get some strength and momentum as an organization.
I may seem like a tyrannical and unpopular jaded Master, but this is the direction that the Order called for not a week ago, and this is something I believe is what is best for us right now. Don't know where I am on the voting process, but my strong beliefs and your support (and Ael's heart felt gripe) led us here.
Great ideas, and we have Watchmen and Shadow. We'll shuffle the point people for them, Mikey is right, we can bring it up in the College of Cardinals-- I mean the Meeting of Masters. Yea. . .that's what I meant. . .
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), just trying to make certain every Jedi's voice is heard. I'd hate for anyone to feel left out.
