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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 15:29:46 GMT -8
Well the plan was to centralize on Coruscant. But how many people (both old and new people) have actually started going to Coruscant since the elections 3 months ago? From what I can see, and what I've discussed with a couple of other people, Corellia seems to be more highly populated than any other planet with a Jedi temple (as far as writers go).
It's not that they are bullying us into leaving, but it makes for a cool little plot point. Either way, from an OOC stand point, it means moving less writers from other places, allowing us to more easily consolidate to allow more player's to want to become Jedi. In the last month or two, more people have made Sith and Imperial characters, because of the fact they are consolidated on a single planet, and they have a plan to spread out. At the moment, we are doing the opposite, we are spread out, with a plan to move a vast chunk of people from one Corellia (with a small number of people coming from Felucia and Yavin, since I am unaware of any other Jedi Temples other than Honoghr, which is seperating from the main Order).
Why not just move a small handful of people from the other locations to Corellia? We can still assist the Republic, but it makes it harder for them to pull an order 66, since they first have to come through orbit. In the grand scheme of things, we didn't have an Empire that was rising up, with known Sith at it's lead, with a Republic that is really failing to do anything. We want to be active, well, let's take a leaf from the book of those who write Sith, and find somewhere that doesn't mean taking a good deal of writer's from their homes, and move only a small handful of writers, who don't already have a char on Corellia, to there...
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Post by Corr on Mar 1, 2014 17:44:04 GMT -8
Jedi governments... I'm sure there was a reason Jedi stayed out of politics but it seems to have escaped me.
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Post by Ael Jade on Mar 1, 2014 21:42:20 GMT -8
Hahaha. I went to Coruscant, even though it demanded a split timeline for awhile. Also, there is a decent amount of activity there currently, to the point of three SLs in one thread. >.<
I'm not saying I'm opposed to the Order centralizing elsewhere---it just sounds like the Jedi Order is on the verge of splintering again. Does the Republic hate us any more than usual at the moment? (If so, I am unaware of it.) Also, what kind of morale effect is simply abandoning the Great Temple going to have on the members of the Order ideologically and culturally?
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Post by Mike Frantz on Mar 1, 2014 22:22:02 GMT -8
Well no one really likes it there.. or maybe they do... truth be told there isn't anything against Coruscant it's just not that much home to anyone and such....
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Post by Ael Jade on Mar 1, 2014 22:24:28 GMT -8
I see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 10:51:51 GMT -8
Maybe if the Temple had threads for places like...I dunno...training rooms? The infirmary? That might help make it seem more...homey. I'm just throwing it out there... >.>
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Post by Aleranus on Mar 4, 2014 12:08:25 GMT -8
I could see Jedi self-rule if the Republic disowned the Jedi. I wouldn't see any antagonism from the Jedi for this action either. I feel like they'd view it as a parent views a toddler throwing a tantrum. They'd walk away to deny the kid whatever they're screaming for, but they wouldn't abandon them either.
Either way, it doesn't have to be an either/or. Coruscant and Corellia can exist side-by-side, but there might be openings for specialization in their functions or teachings.
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Post by Ael Jade on Mar 4, 2014 14:16:13 GMT -8
Terra, that thread issue has just resolved itself thanks to the Whill of Coffee (Dazbog).
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Post by Chancellor Cihlbar on Mar 4, 2014 20:42:25 GMT -8
The Republic officially doesn't hate the Jedi, just resentful of the carnage. The Chancellor is very pro Jedi. But the Senate is beginning to demand justice for the Mandalorian war. Just to bring context to the preconceived notion.
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Post by Darth Belial on Mar 4, 2014 20:50:31 GMT -8
The Republic seeking Justice for a War they were never truly apart of? Oh you cheeky deviant.
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Post by Zik Kine on Mar 4, 2014 21:58:28 GMT -8
Considering the Mandalorians started the war, the senates resentment towards the jedi seems largely unfounded. It's not like the jedi sent a message to the mandos saying "Please attack us for being Force-users" But you know, demanding justice of the mandos and not the jedi requires using you head, and we all know what politicians use theirs for... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 23:18:45 GMT -8
So here is a couple ideas, since people seem somewhat edgy about going to Corellia. To be honest, at this stage regardless of whether we centralize on Coruscant or Corellia, it needs to be done at one of the places, and we all really need to pitch in. ATM Jade's doing a hell of a job running several different timelines on both Coruscant and Corellia with a few Padawans.
As far as the Jedi High Council is concerned, and I am sure this is gunna not be a sensitive spot atm, I really feel this point needs to be addressed. I know RL does come before RP, and yeah it seems like a cheap shot, but Adi has already expressed his desire to step down from the High Council and concede his seat to someone else, and atm, even though it's a RL issue keeping him from being able to get on, we do need to fill his seat, even if it's temporary and it gets handed back to him when and if he returns.
And Aer, I know Felucia is your pet project and stuff, but the High Council really needs to be focusing more on the Jedi Order as a whole, as opposed to any particular one of the Branch Temples. The Council's (High Council, Council of First Knowledge, Council of Reassignment, and Council of Reconcilliation. Though to be honest I'm not sure what the Council's of Reassignment and Reconcilliation are doing, since I've not seen anything regarding them since the elections a couple months back) all need to set an example for the rest of the Jedi and be centered on Coruscant and get some good stuff going there.
At the moment, we are just spread out, with a handful of people who are over stretching themselves. Once we consolidate, then everyone can chip in and we might actually see some new people come join the Jedi. To be honest, having something of a goal for the Jedi to strive towards would be good, especially with this whole Cold War RP that's just started up.
on a side note, it might be a good idea to get the Whills to give some thread creation permissions to the leaders of the Jedi Order group for Coruscant (yes i know they added a couple more threads, but if we do actually all get our act together and concentrate on Coruscant, then we might need a little more space added)
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Post by Nemo on Mar 5, 2014 4:45:31 GMT -8
Is there a list of who is currently on which Council?
I've not done much main stream Jedi RP, pretty much ever, but I'm getting the feeling I should go to Coruscant!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 6:49:24 GMT -8
Nemo
Current council:
-Adieumus Matango (currently offline )
-Ael Jade
-Aerandir Calmcacil
-Eli Vandal (location unknown last online: nov 19)
-Mike Frantz
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Post by Ael Jade on Mar 5, 2014 10:17:39 GMT -8
I feel we need a couple interim acting councilors until such a time as those who are inactive may or may not return.
I've directed about six potential padawans to those on the Council of Reassignment and Reconciliation, but as far as I can make out those individuals have not been available to facilitate Jedi rp. Is anyone reading this thread willing to give that a go either IC or OOC?
At this point, I think we cannot take issue with those who create characters at the knight or master level since so far are willing to attempt to rp with a padawan. I have three padawans seeking masters on Corellia currently, looking for active rp. On Coruscant, I don't remember at this point---they may have given up.
I don't think the problem is the organization of the Order. It seems more to be a result of Jedi writers not wanting to get involved or work with new people. In the long run, this is hurting us.
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Post by Lord Sinistra on Mar 5, 2014 10:37:33 GMT -8
Current High Council:-Adieumus Matango (currently offline ) -Ael Jade -Aerandir Calmcacil -Eli Vandal (location unknown last online: nov 19) -Mike Frantz There are also 3 under councils: Council of First KnowledgeRaylia Venci Jedi Master Rawkill Council of ReassignmentDevlin Dewe Arcturus Sorrows Council of ReconciliationBroon Krano Kay'li Raganella |
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Post by Yolem on Mar 5, 2014 10:50:54 GMT -8
Hm, Yolem is actually a comic relief as well as an advicer for those who want/are in need of a few strange but wise words.
If people are okay with a slow posting gremlin from a European timezone I can help a little with guiding/teaching padawans. The char is idle and maybe a little interaction gets him going again.
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Post by Nemo on Mar 5, 2014 11:08:45 GMT -8
I feel we need a couple interim acting councilors until such a time as those who are inactive may or may not return. I've directed about six potential padawans to those on the Council of Reassignment and Reconciliation, but as far as I can make out those individuals have not been available to facilitate Jedi rp. Is anyone reading this thread willing to give that a go either IC or OOC? At this point, I think we cannot take issue with those who create characters at the knight or master level since so far are willing to attempt to rp with a padawan. I have three padawans seeking masters on Corellia currently, looking for active rp. On Coruscant, I don't remember at this point---they may have given up. I don't think the problem is the organization of the Order. It seems more to be a result of Jedi writers not wanting to get involved or work with new people. In the long run, this is hurting us.
With the Cold War RP I would very much like to be involved with the Council of Reconciliation, IC and OOC. I've also been looking for a padawan, though not very actively so far. I have no problems writing with new writers so if there's someone who wants a Master, PM me. Current High Council:-Adieumus Matango (currently offline ) -Ael Jade -Aerandir Calmcacil -Eli Vandal (location unknown last online: nov 19) -Mike Frantz There are also 3 under councils: Council of First KnowledgeRaylia Venci Jedi Master Rawkill Council of ReassignmentDevlin Dewe Arcturus Sorrows Council of ReconciliationBroon Krano Kay'li Raganella |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 14:31:44 GMT -8
At this point, I think we cannot take issue with those who create characters at the knight or master level since so far are willing to attempt to rp with a padawan. I have three padawans seeking masters on Corellia currently, looking for active rp. On Coruscant, I don't remember at this point---they may have given up. I'll happily take on a padawan or two, shoot me a PM with a couple of their names and i'll get in contact with them. Personally, if you can write a Knight or Master, then by all means, make a Knight or Master. To be honest, some of our most established RPers started out as Jedi Knights or Jedi Masters themselves. It seems more to be a result of Jedi writers not wanting to get involved or work with new people. In the long run, this is hurting us. This is also a problem. Yeah, new player's are new, but we all started as new players once, so we really need to stop viewing them as something akin to the plague. Come on guys, let's get some actual united Jedi Order action going, after all that's what we signed up for  |
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Post by Mike Frantz on Mar 5, 2014 14:49:17 GMT -8
I thought we signed up for free whiskey?
On a more serious note I think it may be a better option to just reduce the council to three for now rather than filling empty seats. But that's just me. As fat as the sub councils go I think that any that are inactive may just need cut from the roster for now until there are people who show willingness and desire to write as them in which case we can reform them.
With all that being said lets move back to the topic of consolidation. While where we would consolidate is a bit of a prickly topic maybe we should line out what consolidation would mean. What I'm thinking is that I would like everyone to have or at least try to have a character with some semblance of presence on the consolidated world, which gives us a central place to all interact and get along and all that. On top of that it would give is one place for us all to send new people to interact with them and everyone can get to know them and such and try can figure out who they would like to work with.
But those are just the thoughts of a silly old drunk and his writer.
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