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Post by Sithies Manager on Oct 6, 2013 7:00:35 GMT -8
What are the things that you think makes someone stand out for Best Lightsider? What criteria do you think the Sithies judges should be looking for in nominations?
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The Major
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Post by The Major on Oct 6, 2013 13:20:57 GMT -8
They should all be like Han Solo, if they insist on being "good" people.
- They should probably be empathetic, and possibly pathetic. - Compassionate to those that perhaps hate them. - Avid to tell others they are doing "wrong." - Tend to give annoying speeches on how being a lightsider makes them feel like a cake in the oven. - Think dark siders are stupid, ignorant, or lacking in genetic markers that would otherwise make them whole. - Generally be annoying to anyone that isn't their posse. - They may also be annoying to their posse. - Think that the world is the opposite of a vampire. - Have a terrible taste in music, food, clothes, entertainment. - They don't have to be like Jesus, but it helps. - Generally sexless, since they are too busy being "good" to many people.
That sounds about right, don't you think?
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Post by Sithies Manager on Oct 6, 2013 14:09:34 GMT -8
Major,
While I can appreciate your glibness in reference to the topic, we are looking for a more serious conversation on what the site believes the criteria should be for the judging of Sithy awards. Please keep your remarks on topic and constructive to the subject matter.
Thanks,
CM
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Post by Sithies Manager on Oct 10, 2013 5:39:52 GMT -8
Courtesy of Dav Man'sell
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Post by Darian Beviin on Oct 10, 2013 7:28:30 GMT -8
The problem with a "heroic" quality is that it often gets mistaken for valiant, balls out action. Saying a lightsider is the only one who can be heroic is erroneous, at least in my line of thinking. A Sith can be heroic to their cause, and so can a Mandalorian. "Heroism" definitely isn't a factor to consider just for one side. And if you want to get technical, some of the best lightsiders aren't even heroes- at least, nit in that traiditional sense.
Lightsiders can be healers, can be mechanics, can be support crew of any kind. And sometimes, the one who stands out the most isn't even the one everyone is looking at. Sometimes, its the one no one notices until they go back and say, "oh, shit, that was actually a big deal. That actually made a difference." Or sometimes even, "what *such and such a person* did wouldn't even have been possible without *blank.*
The best lightsider is a benevolent person who makes a difference. Not always the one who stands in the forefront.
Sometimes, they even get their hands dirty in the shadows, where no one sees. Sometimes, they make mistakes. The ones who fall and get back up. The ones who do what no one else wants to. The ones who do what no one else can.
The best lightsider is someone who makes the most difference in service to the people. Not to his beliefs. His beliefs are important, but I'll be damned if he shouldn't be selfless. Glory hogs need not apply. Its about the most good for the most people.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 11:14:07 GMT -8
I think the thing that most defines a good lightsider is integrity. You don't have to be a particularly nice person to be a lightsider. But when the chips are down, when everything is on the line, do you sacrifice your integrity, your beliefs, to solve the problem or do you take the high road? Are you willing to do the right thing, regardless of the cost?
It is that ultimate ideal, and the struggles inherent in living up to it, that make a lightsider worth reading. They don't necessarily have to succeed. Failure can be as compelling as success. I personally find that the ones that have trouble with that make for the most interesting characters on the site. They come across as believable. There's a certain humanity to such characters that your flawless, never doubted and never wanted to saints just can't match. That's not quite the same as being angsty, mind. There's a fine line between believably flawed and annoyingly emo. If one were to sterilize your post of all Star Wars references and it could pass for fanfic from one of the millions of generic teen angst series out there, you might want to rethink your strategy.
It takes a writer of uncanny skill to pull off a good saintly character. Because there is so little internal conflict to be had, it takes talent to make characters like this seem interesting. These characters are often unerringly kind and compassionate. There's just something about them that makes you want them to give you a hug, because their hugs can cure anything. Either that, or they can stroll through the moral muck of a battlefield and come out of the other side untarnished. A lightsider like that, written extraordinarily well, can be almost as creepy as a Sith written with equal skill. There's something alien about them. They can kick your ass without breaking a sweat, explain how it was for your own good, and then make you believe it.
It's real easy to miss with the saintly characters, however. Do it wrong and they come out as generic and bland as plain oatmeal. You can sometimes compensate by making them zany and quirky, but it's pretty easy to screw that up as well.
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Post by Dav Man'Sell on Oct 11, 2013 6:18:51 GMT -8
Yes. Yes Yes Yes. Nicely put Eralam. I knew I was missing something, and you just nailed it.
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Post by The Major on Oct 15, 2013 13:41:45 GMT -8
Major, While I can appreciate your glibness in reference to the topic, we are looking for a more serious conversation on what the site believes the criteria should be for the judging of Sithy awards. Please keep your remarks on topic and constructive to the subject matter. Thanks, CM I know you think I'm being a jester but I am in fact completely serious. I feel like the best lightsider should capture the essence of restraint, dehumanization, hypocrisy, and the need to feel superior against those who aren't like them.
You may see that as jaded but I have yet to encounter a person who was supposedly "good' who did not exhibit one if not all of the aforementioned qualities.
Basically, I think of realism in my lightsider.
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