Galaar Vhett
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Post by Galaar Vhett on Jul 29, 2014 22:56:31 GMT -8
Got a post up, Narty.
And thanks for the offer, Goran.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 0:06:34 GMT -8
So, Fenri posed a good question to my via PM that I think we should all consider, and that was what principles/dogma/direction The Mandalorians should take?
there is a number of different and varying ideologies out there, so I'd suggest taking some time to look into them. So far, I'm personally behind the True Mandalorian ideology. Feel free to throw your own opinions out there, and we'll find something we can all agree on.
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Cathaoir Ordo
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Post by Cathaoir Ordo on Jul 30, 2014 4:12:22 GMT -8
Don't get me wrong; I completely support the idea there being a universal Mandalorian usergroup for OOC communications. However, as in canon, Mandalorian clans often did things on their own separate of other clans. My proposition of a new usergroup just for individual clans is to allow for easier communication to those that are just in my clan. If you recall in the previous edition JVS, each respective Mandalorian clan had their own usergroup for this reason: Vhett/Fett, Australis, Ordo, Skir'ata, Beviin, Or'dini, etc. This idea isn't meant to be received as myself separating Ordo from everyone else, but rather just to allow for easier communication to those that are in my clan.
As for everything else, I mentioned earlier that Cathaoir would be on Mandalore shortly and by the end of the day, today, I hope to have him there. Conall will remain on Ordo, but I can also write a wide range of NPCs if they're need elsewhere. I'm around to help if anyone needs it and if there are any questions about the Mandalorians, don't hesitate to shoot a message my way. If I can't fully answer your question, I can at least point to in the right direction.
As for the direction to take the Mandalorians, I don't really think we should settle on it. By picking, you'll eventually turn a person or two away from the idea of writing a Mandalorian. In my own case I hhave Cath, who hates forcies, and I have Conall who doesn't mind them at all. If it absolutely comes down to it, leave to the Clan Aliit'alor to kind of point a direction for each clan, not an all encompassing path or direction. These are just my own thoughts on the matter though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 7:18:37 GMT -8
Well in that case, what if the smaller clans united together to form our own usergroup. That could be the United Mandalorian Clans. I know that Clan Lok just has me and Beviin just has Goran. There are several others like that as well. Therefore we could have the support of each other without having to rely on bigger clans like Ordor and Fett.
I like the sound of Solus Aliit Be Mando'ade
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Nase Talsey
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Post by Nase Talsey on Jul 30, 2014 8:33:21 GMT -8
Bring back the Mandalorian Empire
*chuckles*
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Galaar Vhett
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Post by Galaar Vhett on Jul 30, 2014 8:41:22 GMT -8
Bring back the Mandalorian Empire *chuckles* I feel that the recent defeat during the last Crusade and Ashrah 'gone,' the Mandalorians will be seeking a new way to assume prominence in the galaxy. I suspect we may get that stage, but it will be a different Mandalorian Empire I feel.
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Aeleus Vizsla
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Post by Aeleus Vizsla on Jul 30, 2014 8:55:53 GMT -8
I smell a witty Mando T-shirt company taking the Universe by storm. >.>
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Post by Galaar Vhett on Jul 30, 2014 8:58:14 GMT -8
The group has been made and Goran did have its membership set to open to everyone, so anyone who wants to join sign up.
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Aeleus Vizsla
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Post by Aeleus Vizsla on Jul 30, 2014 9:33:10 GMT -8
I requested to join, so just waiting to be added.
So what's the plan when we get to Mandalore, Fenri?
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Post by Galaar Vhett on Jul 30, 2014 9:35:20 GMT -8
I added you in. Not entirely sure about the plan, maybe we might run into Lok and Ordo who are there and see if anything goes from there.
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Post by Aeleus Vizsla on Jul 30, 2014 9:44:57 GMT -8
I am now smelling a bar brawl in our future.
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Hileo Bui'tsad
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Post by Hileo Bui'tsad on Jul 30, 2014 11:12:15 GMT -8
So I'm just having a hard time understanding how like 1 or 2 writers constitutes a clan worthy of stand alone governance and RP. Not trying to sound condescending, just trying to map out how this would work.
I might suggest, for a starting RP that all the 'clan leaders' congregate to discuss the recent defeat and how we want to proceed. Maybe decide that we have just a loose affiliation in sort of a Clan Council. Set general codes of conduct, does and donts but not missions or directives.
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Post by Galaar Vhett on Jul 30, 2014 11:18:02 GMT -8
Well we still need to hear word from other people, so we can't really move forward to that stage just yet. Corr is the leader of Clan Vhett, but he hasn't been on in about 4 days. So I can't just represent him and the Vhetts/Fetts unless he allows me to. I don't know who the clan leader for Skirata is, though I think Faust is the only active Skirata. Ordos, among a few others, are the most active.
For now, I think we are just trying to see who is available/still around and where people are. Feeling out whats going on with everyone. Then deciding on whats next.
However, I do like your idea, Hileo. Its definitely a good first step and the right idea to get things started up once we know who is truly around and can be involved and who isn't.
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Aeleus Vizsla
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Post by Aeleus Vizsla on Jul 30, 2014 11:37:37 GMT -8
The idea of a clan council seems like a good idea.
Do we have a Mandalore, or is that seat of power going to remain empty for now?
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Post by Galaar Vhett on Jul 30, 2014 11:45:48 GMT -8
Ashrah was Mand'alor of the Empire before he went inactive. He hasn't been on since March 3. I don't know much beyond that.
I would suspect that, in an IC view, its safe to say that the title is vacant.
However if someone has a different opinion and that's the majority view, then I will accept that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 13:50:30 GMT -8
I saw him on today. However, I don't think a Mandalore will be needed unless in a state of war
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Post by Spectre on Jul 30, 2014 14:30:14 GMT -8
To be fair, we had a need for a Mand'alor because we were fighting all Force-user types on Kuat. DT/Jedi,etc etc.... Since the Yavinite exodus, we haven't needed a Mand'alor because there was no war. As far as further details, I don't know why Kuat stopped, just that it did. If we need a new Mand'alor, the old one needs to be challenged and defeated first and that requires Rob to come back on. In all fairness.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 14:31:53 GMT -8
It's fine Cath, I just was of the theory that we really didn't have the numbers to support a number of individual Clan usergroups, but that's just nitpicking.
I think having a Council of Clan's would be good, not only to bring ourselves up to speed, but also as the style of Leadership. Honestly, as Ezakk said, we should only elect a Mandalore when a crisis arises or a state of war is declared, just the same as they would in canon. It sort of comes back a little to the idea the True Mandalorians took to, in that the chain of command was decided based on who was suited to the situation. If we do have a Council, then i'll probably holocall in.
As far as Mandalore elections go, we can choose to retain the process in which the new Mandalore is elected based on challenging the previous Mandalore, however there is a couple different options through which they did it in canon. As with regards to Kuat, the battle never suddenly stopped, it was brought to an end based on a three month timeline that Sinistra set out.
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Cathaoir Ordo
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Post by Cathaoir Ordo on Jul 30, 2014 15:12:43 GMT -8
This is when I really hate that I can't access the old site at the moment. If I could, I could easily point you all towards what had been established prior and show you all that there where an assembly on Mandalore where the Aliit'alors would and could meet with the Mand'alor.
When it comes to the selection of a Mand'alor, there is no such thing as an election. The Mandalorians carried a culture built on strength and war. In order to advance you had to challenge and prove yourself. Especially in the case of the Mand'alor, this should have been settled in a duel of some kind and with it the Mand'alor could be challenged at anytime and by any Mandalorian. I really think it's important to keep this, otherwise we can no longer consider ourselves Mandalorians. For one I know that IC if an "election" were to happen for Mand'alor, Cath would pull himself and clan Ordo out of this culture and attempt to go for a cleanse on it.
As for the current status of Ashrah, I will talk to Rob and see whats up. If he is just unwilling or won't be able to return in a capacity enough to be Mand'alor, I will pose the issue here. Otherwise, if you want there to be a new Mand'alor, you'll have to challenge him.
Again, I'm here to help in any capacity that I can.
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Post by Ashrah on Jul 30, 2014 15:36:56 GMT -8
You could try to Elect someone. But it would end poorly IC for whomever was selected. lol!! I just need to work some shit out with Rev, and I will be back.
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