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Post by Galdaart Fel on May 3, 2015 10:02:32 GMT -8
So, looking at the (outdated?) Galaxy Map, I'd like to propose something to the site. Yes, it involves going pretty far off-canon. Yes, it means species, and planetary adds (if approved -- though I don't know who does that sort of thing anymore, if that sort of thing is even done anymore...
I've never proposed something like this before, since I'm usually the non-force Human (I like the underdog.) However, I rediscovered an old RPG book which I think fits nicely with the EU-style 'verse that we have happening here.
Imagine there was a newly discovered / newly mapped ('newly' meaning it has likely taken a generation or more to chart and create jump coordinates) freight lane, not unlike the Perlemian Trade Route, or the Corellian Run, reaching out into previously "Wild" space. Some government or group of systems decided there were obviously more worlds unexplored, and sent out explorers to chart the unknown.
It gets done all the time, but on this site, relatively little time gets spent discussing it, or acting on it.
Discovered along the way are several new planets / systems (.pdf links to world descriptions and alien race descriptions coming shortly.
Biraktes (home of the Aglian race) Cheyitsk (home of the Chirpoti race) Derkos (home of the Derkosian race) Pzanyalaar (home of the Gorushan race) -- possibly a new site-wide threat like the Vong... Motuv'Utaw (home of the Kirn race, called Kurik by the Ular race) Malatrin (home of the Malatriani race) Musyplo (home of the Qulak race) Bojeri (home of the Shigat race) Thept (home of the Turzig race) and Gahdgkyl (Home of the Ular race, who had until recently enslaved the entire Kirn race for many generations. A tenuous peace exists now.)
It's pretty rare for me to be interested in playing a race other than a Human, but I would love to play a Malatrin, or a Ular, and I think a site-wide fight against a few Gorushan PC's would be amazing. I'll start posting .pdfs of the book ASAP.
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Post by Galdaart Fel on May 3, 2015 10:26:00 GMT -8
Pics first... A Ular A Turzig A Shigat A Qulack A Malatriani A Gorushan A Derkosian A Chiropti An Aglian
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Post by Plu Or'dinii on May 3, 2015 20:02:42 GMT -8
I've had in mind for a long time to do something like this, only I imagined it taking place in the Unknown Regions (and I planned to use a mix of canon species and species of my own creation, rather than from a book). I haven't had a chance to RP very much of my actually happening (this character has been forsaken for years) but I might be interested in playing a small part in this. I believe the only way you would be able to add noncanon planets to the site would be as a temporary location -- but there's no time limit on "temporary" so that wouldn't be a serious handicap.
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Post by Reyn Skirata on May 5, 2015 12:10:03 GMT -8
that would actually be pretty fun. we know there are the unknown regions and the dwarf galaxies that are begging for exploration
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 6, 2015 18:04:04 GMT -8
How non cannon are we talking? Because the Predators look alot like Taug, and xenomorphs are loosely cannon; two species I've rped as before
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Post by Gideon Raith on May 7, 2015 4:40:58 GMT -8
By the sounds of it, pretty far off canon - although everything would be based off the Star Wars mythos (I'd hope). As much as I'd love Gideon here to go toe to toe with a Xenomorph, Predator, and various other characters from different universes, that's more for the Journal rather than the boards.
Never the less, I can see myself being apart of this in one way or another. The prospect of encountering new species, and bringing the civilised enlightenment of the Imperial Truth - is too tantalizing an offer to refute.
Should you require help in reforming these xenos beasts to fit the mythos, feel free to send me a PM.
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 7, 2015 5:56:06 GMT -8
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Post by Gideon Raith on May 7, 2015 6:04:10 GMT -8
An article I am aware of and have read. Same with all the cross over cameos by various fictions. Your point?
What I believe the intent here to be, is we are boldly going where no one in the Star Wars universe has ever gone before. Pardon the momentary sacrilege.
That to me, means new undiscovered planets and cultures. Not something that had shown up once in a comic panel decades ago, and hasn't been back since. Besides, if the Xenomorphs were included in this, what's stopping the Covenant from showing up, or aliens from the warhammer 40k universe, or star trek? It's a can of worms that it seems, and my hopes, that we'll be avoiding in this new setting.
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 7, 2015 7:20:50 GMT -8
Ugh I can't believe you just qouted Star Trek...
Well have the other creates ever made appearances in SW?
Appearances "The Revenge of Tag & Bink"—Star Wars Tales 12 (First appearance) (Non-canonicalappearance) Coruscant Nights II: Street of Shadows(Mentioned only) Star Wars: X-Wing Rogue Squadron 8: The Phantom Affair, Part 4
that's two cannon times they have been brought up/shown in the SW universe.
We also have to take into account alot of what we view as cannon is no longer thanks to Disney. Xenos, though not been in much SW material HAS been in legit SW stuff, and considered loosely cannon. Alot of species in the SW universe have only been mentioned or shown a few times; there are species alot of us havent heard of or seen but they exist.
Hell the Taug and Predators are pretty much 2nd cousins!! They look alike and come from the same background. Maybe the Taug did survive and thru inbreeding they have become Predators
Just throwing out ideas
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Post by Gideon Raith on May 7, 2015 7:46:03 GMT -8
This site is based off the already established EU canon, now named SW Legends. So whatever changes in Canon won't really be an issue for JvS as a whole. Also, I did mention that I read the article, why did you waste your time quoting more of it for the boards? Kinda missed the whole point of my previous post. P.S; its Taung, not Taug.
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Post by DrRoninMatango on May 7, 2015 8:38:49 GMT -8
This site is based off the already established EU canon, now named SW Legends. So whatever changes in Canon won't really be an issue for JvS as a whole. Also, I did mention that I read the article, why did you waste your time quoting more of it for the boards? Kinda missed the whole point of my previous post. P.S; its Taung, not Taug. Well your prior statement informed me you hadn't read it well enough hence the reason why I qouted the more than one appearances. Also you never answered my question involving if the other species you brought up had ever made an appearance in SW ever as the Xenos did in the material I had listed. You know what's going to keep alot of new growth from happening, new rpers coming to this site, its because of the pretentious attitudes that some people put off. Idk if it's just me but you're putting off this air of being a bit pretentious. This is a rp site for a make believe universe, one that's for lack of better words is dead and have been dead for awhile. Aside from the occasional heart beat of writing that occurs from time to time. I've brought forth ideas to a post Fel had made as an attempt to breath life into this site once again. Yet you want to knit pick my spelling, and add negative comments to my posts. Why? If I was new I'd leave this site over your actions and attitude you're portraying through you words. If we want to breath life back into this site we need to all watch how we portray ourselves through our words. You've legitly upset/pissed me off with your comments. I'm not sure if this is how you normally talk to strangers or if you're just naturally this charming.
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Post by Gideon Raith on May 7, 2015 9:03:37 GMT -8
This isn't my first rodeo here, nor is the first time people have mistaken ill intent in my words where there was none.
I was merely pointing out that it seems the idea Fel proposed was to create something new here on the boards. Something we veterans could use as an additional selling point to draw new, and possibly old blood back onto JvS. As well as mentioning said point, I was putting forth my two cents on mixing fictional universes.
As for answering your question, the species/ mythos that I have listed have not, to my knowledge, appeared anywhere in Canon/Legends. That being said, many times in the past since the previous site we've used, the Covenant have shown up along with various species/Factions from other fictional universes, that haven't been a part or co-mingled with Star Wars at any point before then.
However, as you've said that I've upset you, I'll offer my apologies and be done with it. That includes my nitpicking of your typos and not answering your question.
Should this idea come to pass having something that really doesn't fit in the Star Wars mythos, I'll carry on my merry way.
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Post by Reyn Skirata on May 7, 2015 11:09:15 GMT -8
Taung do not look like Yautja. the closest alien to taung i've ever seen is protoss.
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Post by Galdaart Fel on May 7, 2015 11:26:18 GMT -8
OK, I'll do my best to tread cautiously in this regard, as befits my new station on the site -- but you guys should both take it down a notch. My initial post does indeed seek to do something new here. The species and planets listed are as far from Canon as can be, yet in my humble opinion, certainly work within the Star Wars ethos / machine. I wouldn't have suggested it otherwise. The selected items come from an old sourcebook for a tabletop RPG, this particular sourcebook was not published by the original makers, and fell into obscurity almost immediately. However, I always saw some potential, not necessarily in the pre-planned stories included in the sourcebook, or even the universe it proposed, but in races, and character classes / occupations. Really imaginative stuff. I will add to this thread in a short while with larger explanations of the races sketched above. To be clear, Mr. Yates -- The Gorushan are not Taung. They are not relatives, nor are they (aside from an obvious artists' licence in their representation pictorially, related to the Predators' race either. This thread was created to bring something new, and not so obviously pulled from another universe of fiction. I cringe at the Canon inclusions of E.T.'s race, and the Firefly-class ships in SW fiction. I'd like to think that if I'm going to pull from another source, it won't be something so easily traced, so popular and so ubiquitous as 'Alien,' or 'Predator.' If you look closely at the Gorushan, the protrusions on their face are tusks, not mandibles. And their hands and feet are nothing like the Predators, nor Taung. You will see more as I post up the species histories. Posts in this thread quickly became about Taung, Xenomorphs, Predators etc... That was not the reason I started this. These are new species, which will, or will not make a home here on JvS. That is to be determined by interest level. If someone takes it upon themselves to play a Malatriani, so be it! And if the Whills decide that we should expand into the Unknown Regions with a few of these planets, so be it. I welcome all discussion on these creatures and the RP possibilities for the site, but let's keep it on track, mmmkay?
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Post by Plu Or'dinii on May 7, 2015 12:36:18 GMT -8
If this becomes a thing and we can get enough interested writers to play the populations of one or more worlds, I would like to write one of the groups of explorers.
But I have some questions. Is this going to be a single government sponsoring the exploration, or several factions working together, or factions competing with each other? Or is that all to be decided IC-ly? Ideally, my involvement would serve some Mandalorian cause, but we could also be hired mercenaries.
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Post by Galdaart Fel on May 7, 2015 12:49:56 GMT -8
Plu, I like the cut of your jib.
I would imagine much of this would play out IC, but it'll also depend on the level of interest from the site, re. how many writers we have to portray these new races, if at all. I'll be good for at least one or two new alts, and as to your question, I'd love to see several interested parties head out to explore the unknown, for a variety of reasons.
The space lanes become widely known / charted. A bunch of settlers "go West" for colonization / a fresh start. A government or three make a play for new territory. Some people on the run decide to go where nobody will ever find them...
The possibilities are endless.
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Post by Tiro Saul on May 28, 2015 7:41:42 GMT -8
If I may add something Fel, you may also want to think about what era are they living in. For example are they in a stone age, or do they live in a more advance society then ones we have encountered thus far. We also can't assume galactic basic or any variation of languages in the star wars galaxy has reached them. All together it is a sound idea and the potential is boundless, I would have no problem helping you work on this if you want help. If not I can understand this being your baby, as they say.
I'm just returning to JVS so I relish the idea of helping do something to invite new blood and some of our oldies back.
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Post by Galdaart Fel on Jun 7, 2015 18:04:06 GMT -8
Hi Tiro! I'll have more coming up re. this space lane, and the sentients that inhabit them, very soon. (I'll likely throw up the particulars of one of the worlds, and its inhabitants, tonight. That will include general tech and education levels, and AFAIK, more info than you generally receive on Wookieepedia about any given planet. Should be a complete work-up.
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