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Post by Mike Frantz on Mar 23, 2018 21:27:23 GMT -8
Key word there Was it is now the headquarters of the whole Jedi order. So a bit of a change to adapt to that doesn't seem far fetched. Besides think of the cool visuals of fighting the sith in the rubble of destroyed sections of the base.... it's pretty cool.
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Mar 23, 2018 21:29:07 GMT -8
Lol... you’re talking about taking 10 or so boards down to 1... that’s destroying it. You’re changing the entire thing. To make it what? Another Yavin 4? Another Corillea? Felucia was a military base... not a place to raise your children and train your padawans. Hence why we want to build a new Temple... in a different location. Not over the old Base. I said as much in my original post. |
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Post by Altair Sirraf on Mar 23, 2018 21:32:13 GMT -8
Then there is no need to remove the boards. Go build your temple elsewhere if you want... Felucia is a big planet. Pick a city... build it there.
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Post by Altair Sirraf on Mar 23, 2018 21:36:13 GMT -8
And mike this isn’t about the base being destroyed IC... like I said it’s happened many times before. This is about the boards being archived (thrown out) because it’s an old toy and you lot want something new and shiny.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Mar 23, 2018 21:36:17 GMT -8
There is one major reason, not needing to clutter Felucia with a bunch of extra threads. Also noe of clarification archiving is not the same as deleting. They still exist if needed but since the order HQ would move to the new location there is no point cluttering up the boards with two Jedi locations on a single planet.
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Post by Altair Sirraf on Mar 23, 2018 21:37:50 GMT -8
The Blackguard Have 2 locations on Iridonia... and both see plenty of use and are used for 2 separate types of Rp... just like here should be.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Mar 23, 2018 21:40:29 GMT -8
If the order moves to a new Jedi Temple who is going to rp at the Jedi Base, you? you said you were planning to pack up and leave once you had what you wanted. If a ton of people want to keep it around and prove they are going to write there then sure it's a viable location, but that can be established in a single thread just as well and then the other ones can be un archived if there is a need of them. But generally factions don't need 2 HQs on the same planet.
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Post by Altair Sirraf on Mar 23, 2018 21:41:40 GMT -8
You guys arnt seeing the point... to anything I’m saying. So I’m done trying. Do what you want.
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Mar 23, 2018 21:41:53 GMT -8
The Blackguard Have 2 locations on Iridonia... and both see plenty of use and are used for 2 separate types of Rp... just like here should be. That would be ideal, yes, but do we even have those numbers? Plenty of Jedi, yes, but are there other pure military types? How many people would actually make use of the Base after the new Temple is created? That's the key point. If there's plenty of interest in writing military RP there, excellent, perfect. Otherwise... it's just additional unused and unnecessary threads. |
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Post by Mike Frantz on Mar 23, 2018 21:46:51 GMT -8
I'm trying to have a reasonable conversation here, no need to toss your hands up in a huff and "walk" off. I get that you think that it's necessary to keep the base and all it's threads and not archive them. Honestly no I don't understand exactly why you think that needs to happen so if you could explain that in a better way I'd appreciate it. I believe the point we are trying to make (I don't know if Aer and I are exactly on the same page so I won't say for sure it's what WE are trying to say) is that we don't see a viable reason for leaving them there to clutter the boards. If there is one and we just don't see it please explain. If that's what you've been doing this whole time and we've just missed it then I apologize but no I really don't see exactly what you mean but I'm willing to talk to you about it until I do.
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Post by Altair Sirraf on Mar 23, 2018 21:52:10 GMT -8
Are you American?
I’d just as soon destroy the smithsonian... to build a history museum, in California, as destroy a piece of history that is that Base. The only reason you lot are even here (on this planet) is because of Raven Alora and her team. They wrote here for years... close to a decade. Before you guys made this place your home. And now you’re just going to Archive that. Sure. Great plan.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Mar 23, 2018 21:56:07 GMT -8
First of all I'm not a permanent resident of the planet nor do I plan to be. My history is in a different part of the galaxy so "lot" has nothing to do with Raven or her team despite what respect I have for her and them. And your analogy isn't even close to accurate. The smithsonian is a physical location while this is an RP board that isn't being destroyed, just archived. In fact the entire complex will still stand, it will just go from 14 threads to a single one until and unless it shows that it needs more independent of the new temple.
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Mar 23, 2018 22:04:25 GMT -8
Altair, you claim that we don't understand your angle, yet you're also clearly failing to even attempt to understand ours. You're equating archiving some superfluous threads but leaving the location standing IC to outright destroying it. Do you not see how you're overreacting maybe a tiny bit here? And yes, Raven Alora was a major driving force behind the planet and her legacy with the world will never wipe away... But guess what? Raven isn't as active as she used to be. Even when she is, she's not IC an active part of the leadership of the Felucian Jedi. Things change. Things evolve. We have to move on at some point.
Also, if you'd ask her, she'd tell you she trusts me with what I'm doing with the place. I still confer with her from time to time, and you can bet I am about this current endeavor.
Legacies go beyond simple locations. Latching onto those is honestly going to do nothing but hold you back. Hell, I built a small legacy on Belkadan over 1.0 and 1.5, but at one point I recognized I needed to adapt and leave it behind. And so I did. Here? We're not technically even leaving anything behind because the old location will still be there. The Jedi will just be somewhere else, somewhere more suited.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 18:11:18 GMT -8
Altair, I understand how you would be frustrated. It seems like a bunch of new people are coming in and trying to whitewash Felucia’s history by removing everything old. But let me assure you, that is far from the truth.
As Mike and Aer have pointed out, the base is still going to exist. Yes, it will get a bit damaged during the Sith Raid, but just because the base is going to be taken down to a single thread, does not mean the whole place is being destroyed.
There are a number of worlds and locations that do not have threads on JvS, but that does not mean they do not exist in the universe. It just means that they don’t garner enough RP at the moment to warrant several threads.
The Base will still exist as it’s own area, with a single thread. The gardens will still exist, the balcony will still exist. None of that is going away. They’re just going to be written from a single thread instead of like 5 different ones.
If there is lots of writing happening in the base after the cut down, then the extra threads will be brought back to accomodate it.
The only thing that will cause the base to ever be fully archived, is if the place stops getting any RP at all. As you said, there is some great potential for military style RP there. And I welcome you to help lead the charge there.
What we’re trying to do, is give the Jedi a good legitimate reason to actually build a Temple finally, and have some devastating consequences.
Archiving all these threads won’t be destroying them either. It’s just moving them to a place where people can still read the great writing that was done in the past. It’s not destroying it or wiping it out by any means.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 22:21:02 GMT -8
Been away for while, but what's the latest happenings among the Jedi and where might I be able to reintegrate my Jedi Knight? I'm honestly down for pretty much any kind of RP with this character, to include wounding and or capture/conflict. Just let me know where things are happening and what I can do to help.
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Post by Jedi Knight Mahir on Mar 25, 2018 0:13:13 GMT -8
Apparently there's a spit fight over on Felucia... otherwise Corellia still exists and functions. Honoghr exists... but saying it functions would be extremely idealistic at this point. Other wise look for future/current flash points on the boards? Caamas is an interesting world atm if you wish to visit, recommend you stay in orbit though as the surface is about to be forcibly rearranged. (hopefully for the better) Poking mandos always proves to be fun-ish and generally maiming, if that's your thing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 1:32:43 GMT -8
Interesting. I'll wherever needed, just as soon as i figure out where that is.
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Post by Jedi Knight Mahir on Mar 25, 2018 20:20:44 GMT -8
That's the down side to a ficticious universe, there are no real needs. So plug yourself in where ever you think you can cause the most trouble have the most fun.
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Apr 16, 2018 21:48:11 GMT -8
Alright, going to revisit the new Felucia Temple discussion. Gonna try to plan it out ahead of time so when the time comes to actually have the thing constructed, we can get it running fairly swiftly. Admittedly I'm not sure what kind of building shape we should run with, although I've always been partial to ziggurat design myself, so if anyone has any thoughts on that please feel free to speak up. Not really intending on going for anything truly detailed with a massive description and images, just wanting a general enough idea that also has a good internal consistency. That in mind, this is the list of threads I believe we'll need: - Main Entrance and Halls (rename to better suit an all-purpose need?) - Hangar - Training Area - Archives - Medical Wing - Residential Wing - Detention Area- Dining Area- Gardens - Council Chambers - Classrooms- Tech LabsMore or less the same group of threads from the Jedi Base forum. I thought about threads for meditation rooms or a security center but wondered if they were necessary. Perhaps in the future but not at our current activity level. I also like to imagine there being multiple hangars in the new temple instead of one big one but we'd still keep all those consolidated in one thread. Any constructive thoughts or input? Would definitely want to get as many Jedi voices as possible in on this to help influence what will be our future home/main hub going forward. |
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Post by Mike Frantz on Apr 16, 2018 21:52:55 GMT -8
I won't have too much input since I'm not likely to be there much but if you have multiple hangars under one thread wouldn't it make sense to label it Hangars, with the S?
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