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Post by Shaman Chill on Jan 14, 2016 21:22:36 GMT -8
Setting a JvS Era, and How We're Handling Episode VII
Jedi vs Sith has no precise or established date, however, the JvS Universe is set in the Legacy era (c. 50-150 ABY), and based upon the Expanded Universe (now known as Legends) canon. This era is not exact, but only a guideline to set expectations when interacting with other characters.
This era applies only to Open RP in the JvS Universe. You are free (and encouraged) to write any era within a Closed Storyline or within the Journal of the Whills. There is also no restriction on using the "new" canon (Saga) from Episode VII (and following) within a clearly-labeled Closed RP or Journal.
Concepts from the "new" Canon may be used within Open RP in the sense that they may inspire starships, technologies, factions, etc., however, these concepts would be considered non-canon from the perspective of the Legends Expanded Universe, and subject to the same Open RP restrictions as all non-canon technologies or locations.
This policy may be amended if it is abused, or as further details emerge about the new movies.
Further details about how this will affect specific planets will be announced soon, via an update to this announcement. This thread will be left open for questions and suggestions.
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Post by Aerandir Calmcacil on Jan 14, 2016 21:34:47 GMT -8
Only suggestion that I might make is this:
Seeing as, I believe, the new books and games and other materials still retain the moniker of "Expanded Universe." Otherwise, it looks great!
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Post by Shaman Chill on Jan 14, 2016 21:45:45 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm sure we'll have to adapt the wording as the franchise continues to develop.
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Post by Mórrígan Dubh on Jan 16, 2016 6:52:17 GMT -8
Not a clue.....
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Post by An Tiarna Dubh on Feb 1, 2016 16:35:26 GMT -8
Is episode VII actually effecting anything on here? Please dummy it up
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Post by Shaman Chill on Feb 13, 2016 21:29:49 GMT -8
Friends,
In an effort to bring JvS into better compliance with the Legacy Era, the following planets which were damaged or destroyed in the EU have been updated:
Alderaan -> Renamed to New Alderaan Byss -> Destroyed, not used, archived Caamas -> Was resettled, so it has been left alone Carida -> Renamed to New Carida Ithor -> Was being restored as of 137 ABY, we can assume that restoration succeeded Malachor V -> Destroyed in 3000 BBY, but a very significant Sith location. We will assume activation of the mass shadow generator failed to destroy planet Mon Calamari -> Destruction did not happen until ~137 ABY so we can ignore this Obroa-Skai -> Was restored, so it has been left alone Serndipal -> Destroyed, rarely used, archived Wayland -> Renamed to New Wayland
Additionally, around a dozen unused planets have been archived (in general, if a planet had no posts in the last 2 years -- since January 1, 2014 -- it was archived). In the future, I expect that we will offer a process to request that an archived planet be restored, if there is enough support.
Please stay tuned for more updates about JvS, the Legacy era, the sequel movie trilogy, and the list of available planets. If anyone has suggestions about planets that have been placed in the wrong sector, please let us know below -- that is another area I would like to clean up.
~Whill High Shaman Chill
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Post by Sohei Ren on Feb 14, 2016 12:00:46 GMT -8
I hate to be a bother, but New Alderaan should be moved to the Outer Rim (East) due to it's canonical location being close to Mon Calamari.For ReferenceNevertheless, thank you for what you've done so far. It is greatly appreciated.
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Post by Shaman Chill on Feb 15, 2016 13:35:42 GMT -8
I hate to be a bother, but New Alderaan should be moved to the Outer Rim (East) due to it's canonical location being close to Mon Calamari.For ReferenceNevertheless, thank you for what you've done so far. It is greatly appreciated. That's the question, though. I was hoping someone would bring this up. Is our New Alderaan the canon New Alderaan, or would it be too disriptive to established backstories for us to move it?
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Post by Sohei Ren on Feb 15, 2016 13:55:44 GMT -8
With the only Alderaanian writer I know of acknowledging that the original planet has gone and that she's taken up the New Alderaan throne, I don't think there would be any disruption if it was moved to it's canonical place.
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Post by Roy Cracken on Aug 6, 2017 18:27:54 GMT -8
Hi
I was linked here by a helpful fellow player who read my profile/RP and mentioned there might be an issue with the new canon ships from The Force Awakens. I am RPing a resistance fighter who got almost all his group wiped out by the First Order trying to steal a resurgent-class battlecruiser. They escaped into hyperspace with the badly damaged ship and a handful of survivors, but lost far more personnel and resources than the ship was worth, in a Derra IV/Hoth like disaster for the Resistance.
I see there isn't a Resistance faction here, and I'd be interested in getting one off the ground, one day.
My question is, am I allowed to RP with this ship?
Someone suggested some sort of wormhole/time travel business from the movie universe to the JvS universe. I'm not sure about that idea.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 19:04:27 GMT -8
JvS doesn't have a Resistance Faction because we have/had the Alliance (Rebel Alliance) and its successor the Galactic Alliance instead. The Resistance was kind of a terrible name and we felt didn't convey properly what the Alliance stood for. The GA is fully committed to the fight against the First Order, so we don't have a need for a Resistance faction.
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Post by Roy Cracken on Aug 6, 2017 19:18:32 GMT -8
In the Force Awakens there is both a republic and a resistance though right? The republic is a government, the resistance is for want of a better word, terrorists.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 19:27:18 GMT -8
Purely for the fact that the Republic refused to believe the threat the First Order posed. To that end, the Resistance was started as rebels/terrorists to fight the growing threat of the First Order.
We skipped a step by dissolving the Republic and forming a military Alliance of worlds to combat the growing First Order threat here. The Galactic Alliance is a continuation of that. Instead of a disorganised group of worlds trying to combine their militaries to fight the First Order, we now have a unified central government better prepared to fight them.
And one persons freedom fight is another persons terrorist. So technically, the GA is a bunch of terrorists as far as the FO is concerned. And vice-versa.
Obviously, we'd be more than happy to have you join up with us and fight for the GA.
As for your Resistance not existing on JvS. A wormhole would be your only real option. A number of people have used such plot devices (or time travel) to get their characters to fit within the main timeline of events. The alternative, being, that you find some other people and just write somewhere in the Era/events of Episode VII. Something we call a Closed SL here (or the Journal of the Whills area).
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Post by Shaman Chill on Aug 6, 2017 20:08:53 GMT -8
My question is, am I allowed to RP with this ship? There's probably nothing wrong with RPing with the ship itself (nothing prohibits ships and tech from the new movie canon from being used on JvS so long as their origin can be explained and they follow our normal rules on tech), but you would need a slightly different origin story to make it's existence more plausible. Maybe your Resistance movement is more localized, or maybe "resistance" is an informal term for the Alliance that is used only among your men, or something like that. Or maybe you do as Victor suggests, and just use the Alliance name. But it's up to you ... most people here will roll with your story if it's plausible and it doesn't directly contradict their existing story. As a related point, there's no rule that says the common JvS Era is absolutely mandatory, but practically speaking, if you're the only one writing in the Clone Wars era, every other character you meet is going to think your character is stark crazy and/or a time traveler.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 6, 2017 20:21:02 GMT -8
Let it be known, Chill, I have offered him a chance to write an attempt attempt to steal an Resurgent-class from the First Order.
Its only because there are very few Resurgents (last I checked, 3 - 4) presently and they have only appeared in 1 battle thus far (Dantooine) in this entire civil war arc. So its still a relatively unknown ship and rare to sight. Let alone know where one may be. The most active being the Knights of Ren flagship and the 2nd most common, presently, belongs to Darth Heritor.
Despite this, I have offered to set up the chance to steal one (no guarantee of failure or success) in accordance with his background. Perhaps even get some GA/RA writers to help him capture it.
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Post by Shaman Chill on Aug 6, 2017 20:45:02 GMT -8
Excellent, then I have no concerns about this. On another note, the General Rules have been updated to reflect the Legacy Era ruling that was announced in this thread. Apologizes for that oversight!
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Post by Roy Cracken on Aug 6, 2017 23:25:01 GMT -8
Thanks for the help guys. I am making some edits to the backstory to reflect that there is no Resistance on JvS. I think going with what Whill Chill suggested that Cracken's group was a group calling itself the resistance without being the one from the movies.
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