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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 16:31:29 GMT -8
So recently in chat, I've been discussing an idea with some fellow writers about an idea for a different kind of Sith faction in the future. Before I really begin to lay out my idea here, let it be known that this plan won't come to fruition for quite some time; I just wanted to put the feelers out there and allow other writers (you don't have to be a Sith writer) to chime in with their thoughts and/opinions. As a preface, there is still a lot of details regarding the running of the faction that will still need to be ironed out as this is in the very early stages of planning. My proposition is as follows:
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So that's basically all that's been ironed out so far and I encourage any and all feedback that I can get.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 16:34:43 GMT -8
Let me also add to think of the way these factions interact to be similar to how Mandalorian Clans all work separately until called upon by the Mand'alor
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Post by Kaine Australis on Aug 21, 2017 17:45:19 GMT -8
Firstly let me say I love the idea, it combines the best of both worlds - unity and diversity - pretty well.
I would suggest though if the idea is to work like the Mandalorians, for the coming together part, some sort of single leader above any Council or triumvirate is probably needed.
Also I wouldn't like to see this limited to Sith. A Dark Jedi or other Dark Side faction would work just as well, and it'd allow for characters who arent Sith but identify with them in some ways to be part of the Triumvirate.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 21, 2017 17:51:03 GMT -8
It would be best to label this as a Triumvirate that is welcoming to all practitioners of the Dark Side. And that could include those who may not be force sensitive, but still have similar ideals to the Triumvirate. Its similar to what I do in the First Order, it welcomes all who believe in the ideals of the Imperialist cause and have commonality with the First Order's goals. Keep the net wide open for all and any of interest to join up.
As for the single leader, I feel this could come later. After all, we still need to establish the two Sith factions; the One Sith and the Order of Ruin. From there, establish the relations that form the basis of the Triumvirate, then enact the coalition itself. So it may take some time before we even consider the possibility of a singular leader above all others.
The One Sith will certainly participate in this, I believe those in my group would be open to this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 17:57:14 GMT -8
What I will say is that we are going to need a third faction if possible for this. That way we can keep the "Tri" part of "Triumvirate." Biumvirate just doesn't sounds as nice. I agree with Kaine that at some point a sole leader will likely need to be established, but this whole formation is weeks and months in the future. There is a lot of IC foundation that is going to have to be laid out first. As far as factions, territories, beliefs, etc. Plus we are going to have to have some reason to interact in the first place. Order of Ruin is located in the Outer Rim East currently and I believe One Sith is located in the Outer Rim West somewhere.
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Post by Darth Heritor on Aug 21, 2017 23:01:54 GMT -8
I would suggest the Prophets of the Dark Side, or some form of Dark Jedi Order as alternative Dark Side groups. I would be interested in either of those, or possibly the Order of Ruin once established.
I will have to give things some thought, and it will depend on the relationship with the First Order and One Sith and the politics of any changes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 0:15:57 GMT -8
A Dark Jedi group is an interesting idea and not something I had thought of at all for the group. Its plausible but I had been looking for another Sith group originally. For Dark Jedi in this I was more or less of them operating closely within the confines of triumvirate if they were going to be a part of it.
Definitely something to think about with making them their own branch of the Triumvirate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 0:21:54 GMT -8
Dont get me wrong though. Im not against the idea...i was just looking for this to be Sith right now. I woukd be willing to go with this option though
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Post by Darth Venator(Clone) on Aug 22, 2017 11:37:00 GMT -8
Okay some thoughts to the "Sole" leader aspect I can already foresee that being an issue. Though I will say this, a name already exists for such a leader.
Sith'Ari.
If we can find a way to FAIRLY grant someone the title, and thus make them LEADER of the entire Triumvirate. But in all honestly here's how I'd view the hierarchy to work.
Sith'Ari - Sole Leader.
The Triumvirate (One from each faction.)
The Triumvirate Council. (Two Sith from each individual faction and three independent Sith.)
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Post by The Fallen on Aug 22, 2017 13:27:33 GMT -8
Well, I will stop you right there. There will never be a "fair" way to grant someone the title. Someone or another will be insulted their character didn't make the cut, or that the person/character we chose doesn't deserve it. And the whole thing will devolve into a shouting match between a bunch of people acting like 5 year olds... And yes, both Sith and their writers will stoop down to that...
So, my suggestion, is that we just avoid that whole mess, and leave the Leader as an NPC. That way no one can bitch about one writer or another being the Sith'Ari.
Honestly, if we could get a Dark Jedi group as the third spoke, it would be kind of nice. Gives Darksiders a little more... variety. The two major powers would be Sith under the Order of Ruin and One Sith. It would give people who don't view themselves as Sith, but still a darksider, another option for where to put their allegiance...
That said, if we can't find such a third option, we can always just find another Sith faction, or NPC a third group as being there, until one rises that would be fit to takes its place.
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Post by Darth Venator(Clone) on Aug 22, 2017 14:46:12 GMT -8
Seconded. ^^
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Post by Darth Venator(Clone) on Aug 22, 2017 14:47:23 GMT -8
Also side note, there could be core group of members able to work together to cohesively RP the NPC Sith'ari or even have the whills play the character (Similar to what we did on the failed LoTR RPG site for the Kings of Rohan and Gondor.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 15:05:21 GMT -8
The thing about asking the whills to write it is that they are really busy a lot of the time as is. Plus someone might see it ss the whills are favoring a certain side or faction because they are writing with/for that group of users.
I do like the idea of maybe just a select few writers being able to write/npc the sith'ari once we get to that point. Something we could so that there is at least cohesion in how he is written is create either another user account to fill oit a proper profile and act like him or even development something detail him in a JOTW entry. Thoughts?
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Post by Darth Venator(Clone) on Aug 22, 2017 15:18:46 GMT -8
I like this idea. And to create an air of fairness just make it the leaders of each faction who contribute to the Sith'ari character equally that way there can be no claim of favoritism.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 22, 2017 16:10:22 GMT -8
Its the approach adopted by the Knights of Ren and the Galactic Alliance. The Supreme Leader for the KoR is typically rped by all the the Ren members, but he doesn't favor any character. Each player moderates themselves in terms of interaction with the Supreme Leader. The GA is using a Triumvirate style government with three NPCs as leaders; one who represents the civilian government, another who represents the military and a third who represents the Jedi. A group of players oversee the usage of these leaders and ensure they aren't abused by players to assume absolute power or give themselves advantages through favorable interactions with the NPC.
Malvus, himself, believes in the Great Void, an entity (who was, once, Darth Belial) who was a wound in the Force and more powerful than any man alive. Which is why he claims the title of Voice of the One Sith, essentially being its Regent, but may take up the leadership role at this point with this idea in mind. We could easily make the NPC leader of the Sith Triumvirate be someone like say the Sith Emperor from SWTOR, an absolutely powerful being that only appears when needed and moderated by those three players, in an effort together, ensuring no one uses him/her to ensure advantages for their character, no matter who they be. Yet this NPC is still the shadowy leader of our group, leaving the Triumvirate to run things in his stead most of the time, similar the Sith Empire's Council.
In general though, this will ensure we don't worry about a sole PC leader going inactive due to anything really. Even if one of the people moderating/NPCing the leader goes MIA, there are still others to ensure he is still available and alive as leader of the organization.
I definitely like the idea of those who would be writing this NPC making up the details together of the leader's personality, attitude and background. Make it a good collaborative work and ensuring all writers are on the same page, no matter who is responding as this NPC Sith'ari
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 2:25:25 GMT -8
I like the idea of an NPC leader, i really do. It's helps to ensure a story will continue to progress if real life gets in the way for a writer - which seems to be a more common occurrence these days. Something we will have to do though is definitely get together between the people who are going to be writing the leader collectively and agree upon a character sheet. I say we can probably have this discussion in another thread or possibly through PM. I would prefer it to be open to everyone to view and possibly give input on though. Once we have something put together we can either transfer the info into some kind of JOTW entry or even a dummy account simply to keep track of all the information - this is something that can be ironed out in time though.
Im going to be pushing forward soon with the Order of Ruin's expansion into other worlds so that could potentially spark something to come of a possible interaction between factions. My suggestion is that we can kind of have this NPC Sith'Ari figure play puppetmaster in bringing together the triumvirate in the future when we have a third faction committed to getting this thing going
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Post by Viox Savage on Aug 26, 2017 17:48:12 GMT -8
If all goes well in the coming days/weeks, I could certainly see Viox creating a Sith-led faction and joining the Triumvirate. It's been my intent since claiming Iridonia to create a small Sith faction anyways, so it certainly in in the realms of possibility. And, having been a part of a Triumvirate in the past, I certainly know what it takes to maintain such a faction.
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Post by Vasari on Sept 1, 2017 16:45:18 GMT -8
I'm with Viox
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Post by Julia Solari on Sept 5, 2017 14:53:38 GMT -8
Hello Sith writers  I am new and am just finishing my Sith Apprentice. I was wondering if any of you have characters that are looking for/ could use an apprentice? |
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Post by Viox Savage on Sept 5, 2017 15:29:04 GMT -8
I have created the third dark side faction needed to create a Triumvirate.
Blackguard Reborn
And yes, Julia, I am certainly on the market for an apprentice. The last one disappeared on me, so there is a vacancy to become Viox's apprentice.
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I am new and am just finishing my Sith Apprentice. I was wondering if any of you have characters that are looking for/ could use an apprentice?