Suggested Fleet & Army Regulation Changes

First of all let me say I think this is a good Idea and you are doing great by taking on this project.

I agree with the fact that a compliment of basic fighters should be allowed per capital ship. Of course the size of the ship should call into account how many of each fighter you get, and classes of fighters should be maintained. for instance a B-wing should still be worth more than an A-wing because of the capabilities of the ship ect. fighter compliments for the larger class capital ships are more times than not listed on Wookiee and those can be used to form an agreed upon model for how many ships per capital ship per class - then you could let the players decide which ships they want for flavor, but they would all have the same capabilities in a large scale fight. Everyone knows an x-wing is a better ship than a Tie Fighter... duh. But when it comes to a Fleet battle with dozens of capital ships and hundreds of fighters the difference between one X-wing and one Tie doesn't matter.

Also I think the rule about troop transports should be carried over *every capital ship holds transports enough to drop the troops it holds* ect

Another possible change that should be looked into is Modification points. Additional shielding could be so many points, weapons modifications, stealth tech ect. And those points COULD be different per size or not...

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I agree with getting rid of elites for ground armies. Being someone who is focusing the point of his profile on building a specialized army of 'super soldiers' I would like the ability to make all of army commando level. Under the current breakdown I can do that to a point but I also believe that droids should cost less than clones and clones should be more affective in combat than trained sentient. Being bread for the purpose of combat and battle. Under the current breakdown no distinction such as that is made.

We need this

I have a friend who is a Chiss. Depending on who you side with, he might be convinced to just give them to you. Also if you want a faction, consider siding with us. We need people

I feel like it would be a little excessive to designate starfighter points per ship. I mean, a TIE/sf and a TIE/LN take up the same amount of space on a ship. You’d just have to be a bit more careful about ships of differing shape and size (say, putting X-wings on a ship that usually varies TIE fighters).


As for trading points. The rules already forbid you using alt accounts to help each other. If you have one alt at a fight, you can’t bring in another one with a full sized fleet to aide you.
Any specific reason though, why you would only want to allow people to give half their points to someone else? And not the full lot?
I mean, having another 128 points is pretty decent. But having the full lot could let factions where characters that are less militarily inclined can give their points to someone who is more militarily inclined (as is, for 10 writers, the FO has like, what, 9 full fleets, if not more, whereas the GA has like 4 full fleets over the same amount of writers.)


There are some pretty points here that are good and that I want to talk about, but just wanted to address those ones for now.

Honestly, I just calculate the full capacity of each of my vessels in terms of starfighters. And go with that and I think that is pretty fair.

However, Altair, I have to say that that is a false statement to say it heavily favors the Imperials. There are plenty of ships, of Republic and Galactic Alliance design, with excellent starfighter capacity. The Endurance-class Carrier can have 60 starfighters. MC80 Command Cruiser could hold 120 starfighters (that's almost twice more than an Imp I and II!), Scythe-class Main Battlecruisers could hold 48, Republic-class SD has 72. Trust me, you guys on the GA side have plenty of starcraft with starfighter capacity to match an Imp I/II and exceed them.

Plus, you guys can easily make Imperial vessels to bolster your fleets. Nothing and no one is gonna stop you after all... unless it involves FO exclusive stuff
But if you feel it heavily favors the Imperials, then use their own ships against them! Just like the canon New Republic and Galactic Alliance did.

Getting rid of elite troops doesn't make sense. There were plenty of units that were elite but not Commandos. From the clones: the 501st. 212th. 187th.

The B2 and B3 Battle Droids were elite, but they weren't commando Droids.

Twilight Company for the Rebel Alliance.

As for fighter compliments, why not just give them their natural fighter compliment. For example, a Venator hold around four hundred Fighters, a combination of Actis Interceptors, Arc 170s etc. It would also carry the exact same amount of X wings and A wings and Y wings. Typically, you'd get around two TIEs to a X Wing in terms of size, so it's not difficult to mix and match.

It's not dicey. Ignore that and simply use the hangers. Their natural compliment was huge even without hanging on the outside.

I would like to throw a random thought in here. There is a small potential for abuse here in the fact that some ships carry an over abundance of fighters that could quickly overbalance a fight (like the earlier mentioned Venator) what if each grade of ship had a max cap of starfighters that they can have and if you want more you can trade points to add them to that ship (assuming it has space for them) it's one way we could head off potential abuse of the new rule. Just a thought.

I don't think carriers are that powerful. But if people I have a few ideas to mitigate the impact of some ships with a huge complement, which I'll get to in moment.

First off, I'd like to point out that the Lurehulks are over 3000 meters and as such cost 256 points meaning thats all a player gets, no support ships. I can say with confidence that my fleet and I'm sure most others fleets would easily beat a lone Lurehulk. Without support ships, larger ships could just focus on the ship while my fighters (which are much stronger than Vulture droids) and anti-fighter screening ships deals with the Vulture droids. Support ships are really important, a lone carrier is not very helpful. Besides, its not like only a few players get to use a Venator or Lurehulk. Everyone can use any ship they want, so no one has a distinct advantage.

That being said, however, some ships like you mentioned do have much larger fighter wings so there should be stuff to counter large fighter wings. For example, we could say that the Vulture Droids and the fighters carried by the Venator, for example are now obsolete designs who's weapons struggle to penetrate newer ships and fighters shields and armour while at the same time their own shields are easily penetrated by newer weapons. At the same time, upgraded or newer fighters can't be carried on such large scale for a number of reasons including that they are far more expensive to build, take more to maintain (including space required for various maintenance facilities on board a carrier), are larger and/or of different proportions to older designs meaning they can't fit as many new ships. As such, some larger carriers (like the Venator and Lucrehulk) may choose to carry large numbers of fighters BUT these fighters are very weak and easily shot down by other fighters and capital ships/line ships OR they can carry newer, but fewer ships. Quality or Quantity.

We can also reasonably say that carriers (by this I mean things like a Venator that are dedicated to carrying fighters, not something like an Imperial-II) are noticeably weaker than other ships of similar size due to having to have much of their space reserved for hangers and support equipment. As such they are vulnerable to larger capital ships or even smaller ships or fighters with heavier, anti-capital ship weapons. Because of this, carriers must rely upon other ships to support and screen to protect themselves (this makes a Lucrehulk a horrible idea and balances things like a Venator). People can bring ships dedicated to carrying lots of fighters but they should be prepared to accept that without support ships, they'll probably die quickly.

Having carriers restricted to faction ships, I think is a terrible idea. Carriers and fighters in space battles have always been important in Star Wars battles, they aren't some super powerful but rare ship type, they're fairly common and have advantages, disadvantages and counters like any other ship.

As for giving fleets points, I covered this in a previous post’s suggestion which our esteemed Chiss RP Advisor (who's name I can neither spell nor copy and paste right now as I'm on my old crappy phone. Sorry) agreed with: people must specify in their profile whose fleet they're getting how many points from AND (I can't remember if I said this in my earlier post or if I've only just thought of this) the person giving their fleet away must also specify in their profile who they give how many points to. Both must be specified for the points to be valid.