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Post by Vilim Ju'oda [RETIRED] on Feb 7, 2020 5:55:34 GMT -8
Kalevalan star yacht
 Ship Role: Personal Luxury Yacht. Ship Class: Yacht. Ship Length: 99.5 meters Agility (A): 4 Defensive (D): 3 Offensive (O): 1 Speed (S): 4 Special Gear: 1 (Passenger Capacity) Description: A luxury yatch manufactured by Kalevalan Works. The tall, skyscraper-like structure, is both towering and threatening. It has ample living quarters and space for an office and sufficient room for cargo. The ship itself is lightly armed, only featuring four laser cannons at the front, not being intended for combat. However, it has powerful sublight engines and hyperdrive, making up the lack of armament with guaranteed speed and the ability to simply run away from trouble. It's well-shielded for a ship of its size. Only few individuals of note could afford the said ship, including the crimelord Dryden Vos, the Crimson Dawn's figure-head leader. I can house more than fifty people and carry two hunded tons worth of cargo on its bowels.
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Post by Luxeria on Feb 7, 2020 6:43:12 GMT -8
Need to figure out how many passengers it can carry and the cargo amount as well. If there is no info from other sources as Wookieepedia doesn’t have it, a number needs to be created.
Also, might I ask where the idea of it being a fast craft came from. The Wookieepedia article doesn’t have anything.
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Post by Vilim Ju'oda [RETIRED] on Feb 7, 2020 9:16:04 GMT -8
Because... it leaves the system quite fast and has a sharp, aerodynamic profile. Plus, leisure/consular/palatine crafts seemingly are fast to compensate lack of weapons. About the number of passengers... Idk, it could fit quite a few people, what's the limit provided by the point in passenger space? And cargo, well, it's big. I guess it had room for it. The wookiepedia and all sources are insufficient.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 20:51:20 GMT -8
Doing some quick reading on the wookieepedia entry for this ship, plus reading the entry for Dreyden Vos' ship the First Light, I would say the passenger number should be on the higher side of things as The First Light was used as a mobile base. For the speed, since it is a yacht i say drop it down to a 4 and increase the defensive stat to a 3. As you did say that it was well-shielded for it's size.
The first reaction to it was to drop the speed and agility down to a 3 and 2 since it is a flying skyscraper, but figured that my earlier statement/suggestion was a good compromise. Another thing to note is that in the First Light entry, it does say that the Kalevalan Star yacht followed a similar design as other Kalevala Spaceworks ships such as the Coronet. I would say that the cargo for the Kalevalan should follow what the Coronet had in the Clone Wars.(Wookieepedia doesn't have a weight to how much cargo it can hold.)
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Post by Vilim Ju'oda [RETIRED] on Feb 9, 2020 2:31:14 GMT -8
Yeah, the lack of actual details is rather frustrating, tbh. It's like butting your head against the wall, I had to even figure the size comparing it with the surroundings and relative size of the characters placed against it. Okay, maybe that change is reasonable, I will do that, drop and raise. Do you think I should add an extra point for cargo space or passengers? Like, twice the amount if now has? Done edited.
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Post by Luxeria on Feb 9, 2020 8:57:59 GMT -8
You won’t need a second point for passengers. Just 1 point if it surpasses 5. Even if you could carry 100, it’d still be 1 point. However, while it’s size may consider it enough to have room for at least 200 metric tons, being a luxury yacht, I wouldn’t expect much more. Yachts don’t tend to have much cargo space. Just enough for belongings and the like.
So what do we say to about 40 passengers and 200 metric tons of cargo?
And this is the reason why the database exists. To take ships that have no or few stats and give them something. May not be truly accurate, but it allows people on this site to have a better understanding and make them want to use them more because it has some info.
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Post by Vilim Ju'oda [RETIRED] on Feb 9, 2020 9:20:06 GMT -8
You won’t need a second point for passengers. Just 1 point if it surpasses 5. Even if you could carry 100, it’d still be 1 point. However, while it’s size may consider it enough to have room for at least 200 metric tons, being a luxury yacht, I wouldn’t expect much more. Yachts don’t tend to have much cargo space. Just enough for belongings and the like. So what do we say to about 40 passengers and 200 metric tons of cargo? And this is the reason why the database exists. To take ships that have no or few stats and give them something. May not be truly accurate, but it allows people on this site to have a better understanding and make them want to use them more because it has some info. Then, how we do it? Double points on cargo, 1 on passengers? I guess Dryden Vos had around 20 troopers with him -not many more-, a few droids, Qi'ra and possibly another 20 in terms of servants (waitresses, valets, aides). So, probably somewhere between 50 people on board? It was basically a mobile headquarters but still a pleasure craft, so it's hard to find balance. |
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Post by Luxeria on Feb 9, 2020 9:26:07 GMT -8
It’s only 1 point for any passenger over 5 and 1 point for cargo for anything over 200 for support. There is no double points for reaching a second cap or anything.
50 passengers work for me. Certainly large enough for it. There are smaller that have houses upwards of 100 but based on the size, it wasn’t a yacht so much as a transport so no nice chambers for everyone. And if you choose to go with 200 tons of cargo, there is no need for a point in cargo space.
Also, minute details, but ship role and the other stat classifications need to be bold. Also, yacht is misspelled.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 11:02:23 GMT -8
once everything is edited, I approve.
Should note that the point for passengers doesn't count towards the ship's crew. Take the Coronet, for example. It has 75 crew members but can have way more passengers.
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Post by Vilim Ju'oda [RETIRED] on Feb 9, 2020 11:27:47 GMT -8
I made the edits, deleted the point at cargo (200 tons seem more than enough for a ship which clearly doesn't have much room for it) and... I think it's done.
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Post by Luxeria on Feb 9, 2020 11:30:31 GMT -8
Still need to remove 1 point from the special gear. Passenger space only requires 1.
Yacht still needs fixing in the topic header and link.
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Post by Vilim Ju'oda [RETIRED] on Feb 9, 2020 11:59:33 GMT -8
My bad. Done.
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Post by Luxeria on Feb 9, 2020 12:30:56 GMT -8
Approved
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