Jedi Council OOC planning

ok ladies and gents, it is official, this is the new treaty between the Jedi and the Republic:




so yeah, make sure you adjust any of your RP to reflect this change, especially if you have any Republic soldiers or fleets under your command. For those looking for replacement troops, Vordaan is currently about to engage the High Council to offer the Th'tremsi as our new rank and file soldiers, fleet wise, well just RP some funding and purchase some ships from a shipyard.

The Jedi Order has money? or at least enough that it can spend at a charity ball? Are you sure you are thinking of the Jedi Order, and not some other organization, because I'm going to put it out there right now, 95% of Jedi technically live in poverty, with any money the Order has going to maintaining itself (temples, starfighters, vehicles, etc). As for protection, they have the Grand Army of the Republic for that shit, what's the point of an army, if every time they need protection it suddenly falls upon the Jedi Order to do it...

also, guys, I'm going to broach this subject once more, since it's almost been a year since we elected the current High Council, meaning voting for next year is coming up. As it stands, there is like 10-15 of us max, and even then, that's a fairly rough estimate of people who are Jedi, and not Grey Jedi or lightsiders, but actual Jedi. Idea's have been mentioned in the past, and I think it's time to stop skirting the subject and make an actual decision about what we are going to do. Are we going to vote in a new IC council? Are we going to go with an OOC council? Are we going to keep centralizing ourselves coruscant? Will we have decentralize and a college of headmasters and break things down to each academy policing large sections of space?
It is time to buck up and make a decision, no more skirting this BS and letting things die like they have. If you don't make a decision and we choose something you don't like because you didnt say something, tough shit, personally i'm sick of trying to repeatedly have this discussion with a select few Jedi constantly trying to derail it and cause it to go ignored. So make a decision and choose an idea to support.

Personally, i'm going with the OOC council with the college of masters. The IC council died within a couple months of its forming, and considering our small numbers there would be like half of us writing members of the Council. Also trying to base the entire order out of Coruscant failed miserably, mostly because a number of people were dead set on staying where they were, this way, people can stay where they want and get as involved or stay as distant as they prefer to.

An OOC Council is honestly the best course of action at this point, it would be the best way to hold meetings and make decisions that are best for the entire Order, rather than a couple of IC writers who may not have everyone's best interests or, in my case, just aren't active enough in galactic affairs to properly react to them. With an OOC Council, more people will be able to be on top of things, and we can come to conclusions and decisions together.

Hahaha. That JvS deck is something else, that's for sure.

So, it looks like abolishing the High Council is in the future? If we're going with OOC Council and IC Council of Masters? Frankly, I think there should definitely be some sort of IC organizational body---if nothing else, it creates rp. At least, that's how I've used my term as High Councilor.

More later, between shifts atm.

First off, this is not last year… And I am not the Jedi the proposed the organization that was debated last year.

I actually mean for the model that I have proposed to be debated for its points to be properly discussed so that as a whole we may find a model that will work for us in 2015.

I hope that my plan never came off that Jedi that had not reached the rank of Master were not important enough to be given the proper honors and a voice in this union, I meant for every Jedi who had a word to speak on an issue to have the ability to say there arguments for or against any problem that should arrive before something was voted on. I only placed the requirement of master hood upon voting within this body because I felt it was important enough that we needed seasoned members of the order to be able to know the pulse of the order as a whole and make the proper decision.

In regards to using Skype, I can understand apprehensions on using any particular platform… However personally I limit myself to Skype and Google +, and I do not feel bad attempting to expand these technological horizons for the sake of a meeting would be either prudent or a worthwhile effort for anyone.… If you are so firmly opposed to the Microsoft Corporation that you will not use Skype, there are possible workarounds including someone getting a temporary membership so that they could initiate a call so that you may be a part of a meeting or, text-based submissions.

Finally, in terms of leadership… I did not mean to leave an absolute void with in the IC leadership of the faction. The best I can offer at this point, would be to name the "leaders" within the college to be the members of the in character Council… Or what ever ruling body we want to have over the faction.

I give these are only my thoughts take them for what they are worth, I sincerely hope that these points are debated and that we find something that will work the best for this Jedi order going into 2015.

Honestly, Skype does sound like a very good medium to communicate through, especially considering the downfalls Monte pointed out of waiting for people to reply on the boards or via PM.

now as to people's concerns about wanting an IC council as well as an OOC council, I refer you back to my previous suggestion in which the Headmasters of each academy act as the IC points of contact for Masters, Knights and Padawans to have with the OOC council. Ideally every Jedi will have a say in the running of the Jedi OOC, with the Academy Headmasters organizing meetings and making sure they stay on track when they are held and such.
Pretty much it'll be a hierarchy of IC Headmasters, then Masters, then Knights, then Padawans, then younglings. This way you can get as involved or stay as individual as you want from the overall SLs as much as you like. So at this stage it means Corellia, Yavin, Felucia and Coruscant will have someone on the IC end of things, which translates to four people keeping things in check OOC, but with everyone having a say. Talus may also count since they are a lightside/Jedi planet too and that's kind of where Sacuru and myself are moving Council of First Knowledge operations to be based off of once this meeting with Vordaan is taken care of.

Why Not just create an NPC council that never does anything or actually says anything and everyone does what they want under whatever assumed orders they have and such and whatnot and just make all real decision OOC?

Mike! *pounces* I thought you had left the site.

I believe an NPC Council has been tried in the past, with the result being disunity in the Order (by which I mean, to a more dysfunctional level than we have at the moment) as Jedi invented conflicting storylines and orders and whatnot. Essentially it looked like an incompetent Council. It was irrelevant.

Frankly, I don't see the point of an NPC Council really...why bother?

I tend to agree with Ael, an NPC council didn't work well. But maybe a hybrid approach would work? We don't necessarily need to hold a council meeting just to make every decision an IC decision. That could be reserved for major occasions or when a council meeting is actually needed for storyline purposes, and other decisions could be made OOC and then directly executed IC, without waiting for a council to convene IC.