Jedi/Mando conflict, take two-Roll call

Well it will have to take time. There are only so many Mandos, hence Corr wanting to get the sith to go on the offensive against the Jedi. To fill the gap.

I don't really see why counter attacking them after a major attack is "too soon" half the reason we are doing this at the moment is to try and distract them from Yavin do too soon? I think not.

Well... fair enough. Alright, compromise then. It can be -set- afterwards, so as long as we progress Ossus far enough so the rough ending and the outcome is known and the RP is started, that'll do us and we'll not be .

So. Dev, Andi, and anyone else involved in Ossus: What do we want for the outcome here?

Mandalorian success, Republic and Jedi driven off world, Mandalorians popping the Ysanna in Concentration camp type arrangements.

That's my suggestion for the core end point.

I'm all right with that, for the sake of the SL.  Though, I know Riddick (and probably the other RPers on Ossus) is getting tired of the losses inflicted on the planet.  I know Riddick would prefer if we didn't lose the world.

That said, I'd just like to hear from others on the matter...just for diverse viewpoints.

Where am I even going after Yavin?

Is Yavin even still going on?

Am I living a lie?!

I agree with you Adi. And that makes sense. To me anyway. Because the Mandalorian Empire is strong and warlike, and because its got the first strike advantage, it would be like the German Blitzkreig of WWII; the first few strikes would be decisive victories against a not-yet fully prepared and mobilised defence. Yavin survives only because its defences were truly prodigious to start with.

However, you need to remember that not everyone is as flexible and open as us. There may be some RPers in those places that aren't as into this large-scale RP as we are and just want to do their own thing in their own little corner without being bothered by anyone. We need to acknowledge that in our planning.

Sweet. In that case it'd make more sense for the second attack - the one on Ossus - to succeed. Fleet to fleet in orbit while an invasion force lands for the ground to ground, and potentially a PC raiding party to strike the Library itself. The Republic and the Jedi could hold them off just long enough to evacuate most of the Library, leaving it a slightly hollow victory for the Mandos who were hoping to destroy such a large repository of Force-related knowledge. Then at some later point, either the Mandos withdraw from what is strategically a low-value world, or the Jedi rally a strong enough force to re-take it.

That said, if Corr and whoever is his counterpart on Ossus already have something planned, I don't wanna be messing it up. They are in charge - I'm just along for the ride.

Farming? FARMING? Listen here, boy... I don't farm. I make starfighters, I make weapons, I train soldiers to wield them.

You are still a farmer, Plu Or'dinii.....lol

The last time the Mando took Ossus, it wasnt being collaborated like this either, was it? This is a storyline like JvS was always supposed to have. Its the collaboration, the fun, the writing that we are going for. The attacks arent being done in the old way. This isnt 'Ima TAKE YO' PLANET BRO!!!' This is a fantastic group of writers collaborating an amazing story. THAT is why Im pushing for this.

Times have changed. Its not about 'I have tons of ships, and a billion soldiers!! IM GONNA KILL YA!!' Its about what is possible for a group to write out, and making a compelling story. Its about what we are willing to do, compromise...not numbers, or 'My army is bigger than yours'. The Yavin team allowed the attack, allowed the Mandalorians to put them under siege. If they would have actually used the defenses against the number of writers against them, they would have slaughtered the attackers before they even really had a chance to get groundside. Yavin Station is a bad-ass defense platform.....and it would have shattered at least 25-30 percent more of the forces that came in. In short, they collaborated for the story.

That is what Im trying to get at.

If everyone would be willing to compromise, and not worry about getting creamed *unless the story is headed that direction*, then we would have a lot less bitching, whining, and OOC fights/shitfests on the site.....and Im not talking just for the Jedi/Mando war. I am quite aware of what the Mandalorians did on Ossus the last time. I am also aware of how many times I helped defend the planet since then....along with a lot of other places. That kind of RP isnt what we are shooting for here. Hell, Rob killed off one of his longest standing, and most well-known characters *Inky* for the sake of the story. THAT is collaboration. We all need to take a page out of that book, and run with it.