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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 12:19:31 GMT -8
A thread to discuss the needs of the group and questions. The leadership starts with the HC but answers mostly to the CoFK. The goal of a Jedi Shadow is intelligence/counter-intelligence gathering, locating evil artifacts and destroying them, marginally disrupting or thwarting evil plots, and reporting back without being seen or detected. All of this while behind enemy lines with no real proof of existence by the organization or the Jedi Order as a whole. If caught or captured, the Order disavows ANY knowledge of said member.
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 21, 2013 12:46:01 GMT -8
Let's grab those posts I made in the Jedi OOC earlier and work with those, for now. I'm at work, so expect more rapid responses in about two hours.
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 21, 2013 16:32:52 GMT -8
Let's address these to get things started. That gives us a pretty solid building block.
As far as I'm aware, the consolidation of the Shadows proper to Endor was traditionally done by Zalor because he tended to write on his own with his group of writers. Which is fine; got nothing against that, it's just far too remote for an effective base of operations. See, we're Intelligence/Counter-Intelligence/Black Ops. We need to be able to move relatively freely within the Republic as well as the Outer Rim. If we can operate from a centralized location like Coruscant, we can move more quickly to any point in the galaxy as needed. Not to say we all have to be based there; on the contrary, since we're often going to be loaded down with work, we may see it rarely. We can have smaller, functional outposts as needed. We just need to be able to disappear and destroy all the evidence quickly.
That brings me back to the concept of having a front; if we can just fold up our operations in a place and leave it in the same condition- for instance, an operational marketplace, a bar, a small time shop, a brothel, etc- we can just blend into crowds and even find out information from sources who happen to wander in. People come to places like that to meet and talk. It would serve our purposes immensely.
But if you guys want to keep it far from home and have a localized base, I'm totally fine with that too.
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 21, 2013 16:33:30 GMT -8
As far as the leadership goes, if you guys want to nominate or put it to a vote, feel free to do so.
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Post by Zalor Anneri on Nov 21, 2013 18:41:53 GMT -8
Okay, I've heard there's been some talk about rebooting the Jedi Shadows.
I know this stems from me being absent - as the official leader of the group 'Jedi Shadows.' I do apologize for this.
I do want the Jedi Shadows to continue. Let me make that very clear. And if it can't continue with me as the current leader, then so be it. But I do want at least some, (what's the proper word), 'say' or 'pull' in what goes on in the Shadows. I am, of course, open to new members, and - heck - if we get a good enough turnout, I may come back as full time leader. I guess the main reason I left is because our characters' storylines became too stale and overexhausted. Maybe some fresh faces might remedy that.
As far as an HQ, let it be known that there is an Enclave on the Forest Moon of Endor already established. It was put there because of its remoteness, and has kept prying eyes (Sith Empire, Mandalorians) away from it. I'm happy where it is, personally, but - if there's a lot of desire to move it to a different world, I'll need some constructive input and some cooperation.
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 21, 2013 19:18:22 GMT -8
The crux of it is, as a group that operates mostly as remote and disjointed, we're probably the least consistent (as far as order goes) subsection of the Jedi Order. That said, if you want to run a safe house somewhere, it makes sense to, but a meeting place should be slightly closer to home. You know? In keeping with the whole unification concept, and heck, it might even promote rp within the Order if we're more readily available. As far as leadership goes, I have no real opinions on anything. I just want to write a Shadow, and I have a TON of ideas to contribute. Whether or not you're fond of them, they're at least there for you to consider.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 21:35:34 GMT -8
I concur with what Jerek said. Being centralized closer to the Order. Although having the remoteness of Endor to have "Shadow" training area makes sense as well. We're the Black Ops/Intelligence/Counter-Intelligence branch of the Jedi, so it makes sense to have "initiates" train to become one somewhere off the grid like Endor. Not even the Jedi Order should know about this training facility.
Zalor, if you want to come back full time, do it. I've been trying to keep this concept running and thanks to Jerek it's been taking off with another interested in joining. This is your group, we just want to see it improve while at the same time keeping in touch with it's roots. We aren't trying to oust you in any way. So your two cents or "pull" goes a long way with us. With that being said we should have a baseline knowledge of who is doing what and where and who is calling the shots. Just to get that out of the way.
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Post by Eremiel on Nov 22, 2013 7:57:38 GMT -8
I think a vote should be taken as to who our "Master" assas... Erm... Shadow is. I think Endor should function as our 'Base' of operations. Training, meetings (When it is not organised for elsewhere), and where we store our non-inuse equipment and technological development (aka new toys). Safe houses should be spread everywhere across the galaxy and perhaps a more 'front' shop would suit our needs in thus regards. Our best bet would have to be somewhere central to our major threats, aka Mandalore and where ever the Sith are gonna base themselves after Kuat. Taris is near Mandalore, but further from Kuat, but as Kuat is a major planet, it is probably easily accessible from Taris anyways. Taris allows for escape into the underworld as well as being a major port planet. Lots of rumours would be told in the bars and shops and markets etc. So I think it would be a good place to start. I currently lack any knowledge of who runs it at the moment, but that I think is irrelevant to us types anyways.
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 22, 2013 8:32:20 GMT -8
Il Mentore Di Assassini... Waitwhat? >_>
On a more thoughtful level, a foothold on Taris would be good; Coruscant, Taris, maybe somewhere in the Mid Rim (Ord Mantell?)
I'm definitely liking a remote location for training as an idea. It's- at least in my mind- not consistent for a group like ours to be too far removed from the rest of the Order. Gotta be able to move quickly from one place to the next, and always ready to respond when we're needed without much delay.
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 22, 2013 8:33:45 GMT -8
I think a vote should be taken as to who our "Master" assas... Erm... Shadow is. Also this. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 8:45:14 GMT -8
I think, aand this is just me spitballing, since Jerek is a Master and on the CoFK, he should run the show. Now I know this is Zalor's group, he should have his say, but since Jerek has his position already in place it should be him. Zalor runs this group and is his copyright patent and idea as a whole. So should he show up he can volunteer to be the third member of the CoFK and run a tandem leadership role alongside Jerek IC. OOC Zalor runs things should he return, but I think this is what should be our primary ideal on getting things organized. My two cents anyways. *places two pennies down.*
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 22, 2013 8:51:23 GMT -8
Zalor has always had a pretty good PR face, and as far as the Order goes, I think they're mostly aware of him. It'd be good to have a public image- maybe not hinting at the existence of the Shadows, but more along the lines of an "Investigator" who acts as the go between with the rest of us and the Council. Not to say he can't be directly involved- I totally encourage that plan. But the rest of us? We're ghosts, and we should remain that way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 9:01:10 GMT -8
Zalor has always had a pretty good PR face, and as far as the Order goes, I think they're mostly aware of him. It'd be good to have a public image- maybe not hinting at the existence of the Shadows, but more along the lines of an "Investigator" who acts as the go between with the rest of us and the Council. Not to say he can't be directly involved- I totally encourage that plan. But the rest of us? We're ghosts, and we should remain that way. |
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 22, 2013 10:20:16 GMT -8
Exactly; that way, the Investigator Jedi are in place, and Zalor (or whichever of us happens to be in that position at the time) just blends in as one of them if anyone asks.
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Post by Raylia Venci on Nov 22, 2013 11:19:43 GMT -8
I think, aand this is just me spitballing, since Jerek is a Master and on the CoFK, he should run the show. |
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Post by Zalor Anneri on Nov 22, 2013 12:57:02 GMT -8
Okay, I have a lot of things to say, so bear with me if I get long-winded.
First of all, if any of you haven't applied to join the Jedi Shadows group yet, do so now, and I will promptly add you. (A lot more promptly than I did with Octavius - sorry 'bout that, buddy.)
First of all, I owe the JvS community sort of an apology. Jerek hit the nail on the head when he said I originally moved the Shadows HQ to Endor so that my team of writers and I could do our own thing. While that was all good and fun, and it allowed us all to develop our characters, what it also did (unintentionally) was make us into yet another small closed clique. For the longest time, I was afraid to let any new writers join us because I wasn't sure how it would affect our storylines. Now that my old writing team seems to have lost interest in JedivsSith, to continue to do that would be selfish and would completely stunt all this awesome stuff you guys have been talking about. Therefore, I've decided that, should our writing team ever decide to pick up from where we left off on 1.5, we'll move it all to the Journal of the Whills in episode format (like a TV show) for your reading pleasure. In the meantime, it's time the Shadows did some Shadowy stuff. With interest from my old writing team dwindling, it's time for some fresh faces to the game.
I remember when I was new to JvS, back in 1.0. Good times. I joined the Jedi Shadows on Dantooine, when it was still under the leadership of a Dash Burik Vos. Great writer, great guy. When he left JvS for good, I decided to take up the reins because I felt that while our previous leader did come up with some great plots, there wasn't enough espionage/investigating/infiltrating and the like going on. I took the Shadows to Endor with the vision of training my writing team to become the awesome group of Jedi spies that we were meant to be. While we had some great times on Endor, sadly - I feel that vision has yet to become fully realized. Sure, we've turned up in some plots here and there across the galaxy, but we're not where I want us to be yet. And I'm gonna need your help to get there.
While I am, as of now, the official leader of the Jedi Shadows, it appears that the consensus is that the group needs new leadership. I'm going to go on record right now saying that I'm not openly against this. Now, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying being the head of my own Jedi faction. It's been a great experience, and it has allowed me to rub shoulders with the other big-wigs of the Jedi Order. But, perhaps we need a leader who's more active (it's no secret that my attendance record hasn't been all too great lately.) Perhaps my preventing new writers to join the group has lost me my respect and place as leader. Whatever the reason, if everyone feels that there needs to be a new leader of the Jedi Shadows, do not let me stand in your way. I encourage the voting process of a new leader. If I am chosen, great. If it is someone else, however, I'll gladly step down.
As for a new base of operations, I have no problem with it being moved somewhere else. I would like to offer the Jedi Shadows Enclave as a safehouse, (and a training facility, perhaps - not a bad idea, Octavius). If the HQ is moved, I'd still like to plan on being in charge of the facility on Endor, if that's alright with everyone.
Lastly, I am flattered that everyone still thinks I'd at least be a good PR rep for the Shadows. While it is true that the Jedi Order as a whole shouldn't know (IC) that we exist, I'd still like to be the go-to guy to set up stuff with the other contacts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 13:22:15 GMT -8
I think, aand this is just me spitballing, since Jerek is a Master and on the CoFK, he should run the show. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 13:28:26 GMT -8
Okay, I have a lot of things to say, so bear with me if I get long-winded.
First of all, if any of you haven't applied to join the Jedi Shadows group yet, do so now, and I will promptly add you. (A lot more promptly than I did with Octavius - sorry 'bout that, buddy.)
First of all, I owe the JvS community sort of an apology. Jerek hit the nail on the head when he said I originally moved the Shadows HQ to Endor so that my team of writers and I could do our own thing. While that was all good and fun, and it allowed us all to develop our characters, what it also did (unintentionally) was make us into yet another small closed clique. For the longest time, I was afraid to let any new writers join us because I wasn't sure how it would affect our storylines. Now that my old writing team seems to have lost interest in JedivsSith, to continue to do that would be selfish and would completely stunt all this awesome stuff you guys have been talking about. Therefore, I've decided that, should our writing team ever decide to pick up from where we left off on 1.5, we'll move it all to the Journal of the Whills in episode format (like a TV show) for your reading pleasure. In the meantime, it's time the Shadows did some Shadowy stuff. With interest from my old writing team dwindling, it's time for some fresh faces to the game.
I remember when I was new to JvS, back in 1.0. Good times. I joined the Jedi Shadows on Dantooine, when it was still under the leadership of a Dash Burik Vos. Great writer, great guy. When he left JvS for good, I decided to take up the reins because I felt that while our previous leader did come up with some great plots, there wasn't enough espionage/investigating/infiltrating and the like going on. I took the Shadows to Endor with the vision of training my writing team to become the awesome group of Jedi spies that we were meant to be. While we had some great times on Endor, sadly - I feel that vision has yet to become fully realized. Sure, we've turned up in some plots here and there across the galaxy, but we're not where I want us to be yet. And I'm gonna need your help to get there.
While I am, as of now, the official leader of the Jedi Shadows, it appears that the consensus is that the group needs new leadership. I'm going to go on record right now saying that I'm not openly against this. Now, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying being the head of my own Jedi faction. It's been a great experience, and it has allowed me to rub shoulders with the other big-wigs of the Jedi Order. But, perhaps we need a leader who's more active (it's no secret that my attendance record hasn't been all too great lately.) Perhaps my preventing new writers to join the group has lost me my respect and place as leader. Whatever the reason, if everyone feels that there needs to be a new leader of the Jedi Shadows, do not let me stand in your way. I encourage the voting process of a new leader. If I am chosen, great. If it is someone else, however, I'll gladly step down.
As for a new base of operations, I have no problem with it being moved somewhere else. I would like to offer the Jedi Shadows Enclave as a safehouse, (and a training facility, perhaps - not a bad idea, Octavius). If the HQ is moved, I'd still like to plan on being in charge of the facility on Endor, if that's alright with everyone.
Lastly, I am flattered that everyone still thinks I'd at least be a good PR rep for the Shadows. While it is true that the Jedi Order as a whole shouldn't know (IC) that we exist, I'd still like to be the go-to guy to set up stuff with the other contacts. |
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Post by Jerek Morrows on Nov 22, 2013 13:46:32 GMT -8
I'll work in whatever capacity I'm needed; my main concern is steady operation of the Shadows. Anyone committed to that is ok in my book.
As far as operations and training on Endor, I'm totally ok with Zalor remaining in command there. All in favor, be heard.
If you want me to run the Shadows from the inside perspective while Zalor handles our "diplomacy," I can work that out with him. Or, whatever you guys want.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 14:04:55 GMT -8
I'll work in whatever capacity I'm needed; my main concern is steady operation of the Shadows. Anyone committed to that is ok in my book. As far as operations and training on Endor, I'm totally ok with Zalor remaining in command there. All in favor, be heard. If you want me to run the Shadows from the inside perspective while Zalor handles our "diplomacy," I can work that out with him. Or, whatever you guys want. |
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