The Juicer Uprising (RP proposal)

The 2nd generation juicer being Togorian, I'm thinking only a handful having been created much like the Spartans in Halo, would be perfect for hunting and tracking awol 1st generation juicers

Yes, the green guys would have had time to fine tune the chemical, and maybe the side effects and short span don't really come into consideration with this new species that are naturally stronger and able to take more than their human counterparts.

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Togorian

If the green guys offered challenging hunts ie the first generation juicers as well as pay they'll stick with you till the end. When described they remind me of Predators in the sense they live for the hunt, the honor.

The perfect type for the green dudes to use for their own self preservation. Humans can be a bit unpredictable and not always hold themselves to such standards

Sound reasoning. I have no other objections if Fel gives the go-ahead, but the side effects should still come into play a few years down the road. Maybe a year or two longer than with humans, but that's still a lot of stress to put on a body. Even one as resilient as a Togorian.

Where is the sacrifice stuff coming from? It doesn't say anything about it in the link you posted.

It'sa bigger stretch than you may think when you take into account the fact that the Togorians are a spacefaring society, along with there never being any mention of such practices despite the massive cultural significance they would have.

Mostly, I just think it's a bad idea to take a noble, honorable race like the Togorians and reduce them to savages who sacrifice sentients in spite of the entire galactic community being opposed to such behavior. Especially when there isn't any canon evidence to back it up.

There could certainly be a single tribe that worships a deity that requires sentient sacrifice (though I would imagine that in a society like the Togorians sacrificing any sentient that they see as weak would be frowned upon as well), but trying to apply such a drastic change to the entire race is going quite a bit too far.

There's also no mention anywhere of the gods the Togorians might worship or even if they worship at all.

George Lucas simple can't wrote ever detail for every species, planet, and culture. Those that have written 'cannon' books have been labeled as non cannon by Lucas. This means much of what we've used on here is non cannon but accepted by the other writers.

I've not seen anything like what I'm proposing, a religion (a serious one, sorry but the flying spaghetti monster doesn't count) which could put a different angle and develop a culture that has little on it compared to species like the ewok or wookie

I believe you missed my point entirely.

Yes, the Hutts deal in crime, murder, drugs, extortion, and torture.

Yes, the sand people pillage and murder and steal.

True, the galaxy is not wholly policed nor even remotely entirely civilized.

My point is that all of that stuff is documented in canon. It's widely known that the Hutt's are crime lords and the sand people are raiders. It's even known that Togorians make for terrifying pirates. But in not one instance is it ever even mentioned that the togorians are a religious species, much less that they perform ritual sacrifice in the name of that religion.

There are several other races for which such things ARE mentioned, such as the Gand and Anzati on the religious front and the Yevetha on the sacrificial front. Things with that much significance in the culture generally aren't completely absent from all the documented history of the species. Togorian's also aren't lacking in sources or appearances, so it isn't a matter of limited material on them, it's a matter of it simply not being there.

All that aside, you can easily have a single tribe that worships whatever god you want in whatever way you wish, but to impose such a thing on the entire species based purely on conjecture is crossing a line. Any other writers here would then have to follow that doctrine you set simply because you wanted two dozen togorians who practice a sacrificial religion (which you can easily get from a single tribe).

Regarding the non-canonization of the EU, it was Disney who did that, not Lucas, and everyone here still considers Legends canon for the purposes of our SL's.

Also, it sounds sort of like a copout having a second generation ALREADY that's already bypassed the weaknesses of the stated focus of the arc. You want the powers? Better have some debuffs in mind at BEST or you're just going to come off as having the cake and eating it too.

I think I mentioned somewhere (might've been in chat)that the juicer process was intended for, and currently available to Humans or Near-Humans, biologically, as the drugs were designed to work with their physiology.

Not to say I'm against a Togorian PC joining in the fun--far from it. Maybe there's a branch of the scientists who are experimenting on alien races (the most likely candidates would be species who have naturally long lifespans.)

I'm not sure about Juicer hunting Juicer. Might be good, if there's something beyond simple loyalty or a racial predisposition pulling the strings.

As for series one / series two Juicers, the main difference is in the drug injection delivery. Series one Juicers physically have external needle collars on neck, biceps, wrists, thighs, ankles and in two places on the chest. Interconnecting them is a series of compaitively fragile tubes. Series One troopers must rely heavily on armour to protect against operational hazards that could rupture a hose or damage a collar. Series one tech has been widely sold off-world to other planets.

Series two is new in the last four years, replacing all external collars and tubing with bio-system cybernetic implants. It is a very invasive procedure that is possible only because of the rapid healing of the Juicers. Series two troopers exist only on Falleen currently.

I intended there to be fewer Series two Juicers, but not so that they could be a plot device to hunt the Series One troopers. These are brothers in arms. Not mercs.

However, would the scientists / government have their own elite troopers as 'security?' Likely. Very likely.