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Post by Galdaart Fel on Jun 13, 2017 9:31:51 GMT -8
**waits**
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 10:11:19 GMT -8
Where's the link to this so I can get involved a bit with Frostbite Squad.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Jun 13, 2017 10:14:40 GMT -8
I will say though that the Alliance and FO have only fought like four engagements; Garqi, Dantooine, Jabiim and now Taris.
Garqi was an Alliance victory, it was a raid that gain a hibernating Jedi. Dantooine was a stalemate, although the planet was devastated. Jabiim looks to be an Imperial victory. While Taris is either gonna be Alliance gains the planet or at least disrupts FO's presence in the area enough to hinder any progress further towards their territories. Whereas for the FO, its either keep Taris or lose it.
So its 1 for Alliance, 1 for FO, stalemate and in progress. So I wouldn't say that Alliance has not won a single fight.
Also be aware that my fleet has yet to enter this fight, so Alliance naval forces will be severely outnumbered here in due time. I think that's why Victor mentioned it; I think he sees an Acclamator, which stands out, would only be an obvious target for the orbiting Imperials. I mean everyone knows those are troop transports. That's at least how I am viewing his words. I would say still go for it, but I think Victor is allowed to at least question the choice of ship seeing as he did formulate this SL involving Taris.
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Post by Galdaart Fel on Jun 13, 2017 10:16:49 GMT -8
I'm interested in this SSD, Nic... where does that factor in?
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Jun 13, 2017 10:19:24 GMT -8
The SSD will probably not show up at Taris. I am not entirely sure yet. I had it set up to where the ship is intact, but still bares the scars of failed Mandalorian Crusade upon Kuat. So its a matter of dragging it back to Imperial space and repairing it. So it could or could not appear. But seeing as I want to give you guys a chance, leaning more towards not showing up.
Other than that, I am merely doing what I tended to do months ago in terms of finally acquiring a faction SSD.
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Post by Chase Hargrave [Retired] on Jun 13, 2017 10:40:40 GMT -8
I will say though that the Alliance and FO have only fought like four engagements; Garqi, Dantooine, Jabiim and now Taris. Garqi was an Alliance victory, it was a raid that gain a hibernating Jedi. Dantooine was a stalemate, although the planet was devastated. Jabiim looks to be an Imperial victory. While Taris is either gonna be Alliance gains the planet or at least disrupts FO's presence in the area enough to hinder any progress further towards their territories. Whereas for the FO, its either keep Taris or lose it. So its 1 for Alliance, 1 for FO, stalemate and in progress. So I wouldn't say that Alliance has not won a single fight. Also be aware that my fleet has yet to enter this fight, so Alliance naval forces will be severely outnumbered here in due time. I think that's why Victor mentioned it; I think he sees an Acclamator, which stands out, would only be an obvious target for the orbiting Imperials. I mean everyone knows those are troop transports. That's at least how I am viewing his words. I would say still go for it, but I think Victor is allowed to at least question the choice of ship seeing as he did formulate this SL involving Taris. Okay, fair point. I forgot about Garqi. So in terms of actually RP'ed battles, its 1 for 1. Which is fine. It just seems that the FO is way more organized and productive at doing their thing. I want to help the Alliance get to the point. And as I stated, I am willing to tone it down in the amount of troops that make it to the surface and the size of ship. I have yet to reply to Fel IC, so I can counter his plan to a degree. I am reasonable and can be flexible in how I write. And I'm willing to change what I can without scraping the entire idea. As for the Alliance Navy being outnumbered, that's not a concern at this point. Taris is vital to both sides. It'll get figured out as it progresses, I'm sure. I will be jumping in on the Alliance side of things soon enough as well, so there is that. I just wanted to relay my point that with the comments made earlier, intentional or not, I felt as though this was already a decided thing in terms of how it was going to play out. Which is where my complaint came in. Should I have maybe waited a little longer to reply to it than I did? Most likely. But as I have made clear, I'm not looking for a fight or anything of the sort. I just want to clear things up and get this thing rolling again. Thanks, Nic, for clearing that up. That was an oversight on my part.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Jun 13, 2017 10:52:13 GMT -8
FO is only more organized cause I am actually around more often to be honest. Before it was a bit more stale cause I wasn't around directing left and right, motivation tends to die quickly. But, for some reason, I got the spark and am back! I mean I have been helping with Victor in trying to make the Alliance more productive, even offering my Duro alt to the group. Cause honestly, I know for fact that it isn't fun fighting a war when there really isn't much on either side.
I know for a fact Victor would not lay things out purposefully, he was merely questioning the suggestion based upon the present situation. He isn't that type of person to blatantly stop someone from doing something because it doesn't work with him. I mean even I questioned the presence of the Acclamator based upon what I know in terms of the FO forces at Taris and those incoming. So its no problem at all, Chase.
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Post by Galdaart Fel on Jun 13, 2017 10:57:25 GMT -8
I think he sees an Acclamator, which stands out, would only be an obvious target for the orbiting Imperials. I mean everyone knows those are troop transports. That's at least how I am viewing his words. I would say still go for it, but I think Victor is allowed to at least question the choice of ship seeing as he did formulate this SL involving Taris. ...agan, if it ever happened IC, the orbiting Imperials would be a largely moot point. Wouldn't it be interesting to see what I mean? (I gave a tiny tidbit of a hint by saying "passing on the double yellow") ...but maybe we'll never get to find out. I'm happy to fly anything. Let's see what Mr. Hargrave says IC.
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Post by Alaric Lamar on Jun 13, 2017 11:25:09 GMT -8
I'm a jedi and if its not too late to get involved, I would be happy to join in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 11:28:15 GMT -8
Ok guys, been playing minecraft most of the day. But dropping in to weigh in on this whole thing, which seems to have exploded a bit and gotten taken highly out of context. Drez, here is the link to Taris: boards.jedivsith.com/board/294/tarisFrom what I was reading of the IC planning, the Acclamator, in Fel's own IC words, would have required a fleet to cover it so it could get past. That was my only concern with it. I wasn't trying to stifle anyone's creativity. I was just pointing out something of a flaw in a plan that seemed like it was going to end up beyond the means of our forces. The other point of it, was that sneaking past the enemy in something smaller, would allow an entry point for teams like Drez's, that don't have fleets, so that they could conduct operations planet side (rallying the locals to our side. taking over any ground to orbit defences) without painting something of a large target on their backs. That was my concern. Yes, perhaps I might have worded my concern a little differently, but in saying that, there really was no need to just suddenly attack me like that (as there should never be any need/reason for one writer to do so with another). Taris is going to be determined by whoever manages to out-write the opposing side. There is no predetermined outcome to it, except for the fact that whether we win or lose, the Alliance will end up with Intel on the FO's coreworld operations. I mean, if you guys can make it work, then by all means. I just didn't kind of want you guys jumping in with something that would require more means than we have to commit to and end up with it being blown up, or that could be achieved by us just sending down troop transports with the resources that we do have. P.S: if you can keep up Alaric and have a way of getting to Taris, by all means man.
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Post by Galdaart Fel on Jun 13, 2017 11:30:58 GMT -8
Hey Victor. As I mentioned, Fel has a way to get planet-side (not unscathed, mind you) in an Acclamator without having a fleet. All he needs is a snub-fighter with a sensor pod.
thus the 'big ship landing a high volume of troops without the need for a fleet back-up.'
Woulda worked. Woulda been fun. But I'm sure whatever the new plan becomes will be just as much fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 11:31:22 GMT -8
here are the forces as they stand.
First Order: - Nicademus Delvardus IV - Viox Savage - Admy/II - Thrakk Valinor
Alliance: - Victor Marshall - Lieutenant Drez - Chase Hargave - Galdaart Fel - Alaric Lamar (?)
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Post by Galdaart Fel on Jun 13, 2017 11:35:03 GMT -8
**cringes at being called an actual part of the 'forces.'**
I guess it's true. I still see myself as on my own side, in keeping with the smuggler ethos. And are these the forces of the entire FO / Alliance, or just Taris?
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Post by Chase Hargrave [Retired] on Jun 13, 2017 11:37:13 GMT -8
I do apologize if it seemed like I was attacking you, Victor. That was not my intent. I understand where you are coming from. At the time, it felt like our creativity was being stifled. As I stated in my last post, I should have cooled my head a bit first before responding. I alone take the blame for that. And I have also clarified several times in my posts that that was not the intent. So I truly do apologize for it coming across that way. Fel and I are discussing ways to tone it back just a little and go from there. It'll still be a spectacle, to be sure. Stay tuned for that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 11:44:24 GMT -8
no worries. I am sure you will figure something out.
and those are just the forces for the Taris Skirmish. However, Alaric, unless we can get another FO writer. Might be best to sit this one out man.
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Post by Viox Savage on Jun 13, 2017 12:07:32 GMT -8
Well technically, Viox is not present over Taris. So if/when he shows up, he could contend with the Jedi...
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on Jun 13, 2017 12:27:14 GMT -8
Yo @drez , how big of a force are you bringing to the table? If it isn't too large you could shoot the space part of the battle in a blockade runner & do some SpecOps v SpecOps with me against my Recon Platoon in the undercity.
Side note: standard GAR (clonetrooper) command for a lieutenant is a platoon (four squads of 9 troopers & a sergeant, total 36 troopers, 4 sergeants plus Lieutenant). There is some variation though as the clone commandos used five 4-man squads (or 20+L), while the recruited army used four 6-man squads (5 troopers plus a sergeant, total 24+L). Whether you follow the standard breakdown or are understaffed due to combat losses is a factor though as well.
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Post by Alaric Lamar on Jun 13, 2017 12:35:39 GMT -8
Well technically, Viox is not present over Taris. So if/when he shows up, he could contend with the Jedi... Whoo! I can't wait to participate. I've got a KOTOR Era Hammerhead and it's complement of fighters and shuttles If you're referring to me, I think it'd be pretty cool to sort of recreate the Endar Spire's demise over Taris. If you arrive partway through the battle, you could sense me on the ship. I'd let my ship be disabled/boarded and you could overrun the ship and force me and survivors to escape to Taris on escape pods
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Post by Viox Savage on Jun 13, 2017 12:40:08 GMT -8
Oh yes. I like this idea. Which makes it all the more fun considering I just started playing KOTOR again last night.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 14:29:31 GMT -8
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