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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 15:15:04 GMT -8
Just felt like informing the site that there is now an active law enforcement group, in hopes to foster some new and exciting RP scenarios.
Myself along with @borgostavrax are joining forces with our NPCs on board a PB-950 Patrol Boat and will be jumping in galaxy shortly. Anyone who is interested in writing with us, let us know! We look forward to hearing from you!
This can also be considered our official thread! So feel free to drop us a message here or private message either of us!
Kaz.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 15:19:16 GMT -8
Can't wait to catch me some bad guys
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on May 6, 2017 20:39:54 GMT -8
It will be interesting to see how you navigate local law enforcement agencies. As I know personally that at least three groups have their own law enforcement groups (FO, RA, II) none of which exactly see eye to eye. I assume you will be trying to set up deal & such to let y'all operate freely in the various areas?
Edit note: I notice both your images are Zabrak. Are y'all limited to just Zabrak membership or was that just a coincidence?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 23:00:12 GMT -8
Nah, we are open to anyone. Just happened that we all came from Iridonia. After Viox Savage and the First Order invaded. And to clear up any issues with mixing with the local authorities of each faction, here's the link to the Sector RangersHopefully that clears any questions up.
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on May 7, 2017 10:22:20 GMT -8
The problem with that is the Sector Rangers were a single government force. First the Old Republic, Then the Empire & finally the New Republic. A good comparison would be the FBI for the US or the KGB for the USSR. Each of those can (or could as the case may be) operate freely within the scope of their respective nation. While other law enforcement agencies (local or state wide) are restricted to specific regions.
The problem here is that there are three major factions, each with their own governments & structures. It would be like having a FBI agent arresting in the USSR or China (& no, operations in foreign countries would be domain of the CIA not the FBI). If you are claiming to be a continuation of the original Rangers, then you will have a mandate to work within the borders of the RA here on the site, but the FO & the II (which is the mando empire by the way) aren't likely to welcome you operating in their territory without some kind of prior agreement.
That would give you two interesting story lines to explore right off the bat. First you could try to set up treaties with those nations for access. The second option would be ignore them & have to deal with being treated as kidnappers or worse by the local agencies if you are discovered.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 12:25:08 GMT -8
Well, I think I can safely say you are welcome to operate within Alliance territory. However in saying that, it would still be prudent to contact each government to work out operation allowances. After all, the Alliance has no central government. Assuming of course you remain within the Republic/New Republic version. I guess you could go the Imperial version and operate within FO space. In which case... stay out of our territory you filthy Imperial scum
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 18:10:45 GMT -8
We are planning to operate throughout the entire galaxy and are planing on contacting each respective government to work out our operating allowances. If we could get a rough estimation on what the Alliance, First Order and Infinite Imperium own, along with the central/core of operations/government, we will be able to establish what is neutral space and what is aligned to each faction. Thanks in advance!
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on May 7, 2017 19:04:10 GMT -8
RA: Felucia (Capital), Mon Calamari, Corellia, Belkadan, Dantooine, Yavin IV, Selonia, Naboo, Talus, Tralus
FO: Muunilist (Capital), Bastion, Yaga Minor, Ilum, Nirauan, Csilla, Garqi, Bilbringi, Dubrillion, Iridonia, Mygeeto, Jabiim
II: Lehon (Capital), Etti IV (industrial heart), Bonadan Other mandos clan holds & multi-clan areas: Mandalore, Agamar (Clan Bralor), Ordo (Clan Ordo), Myrkr (Clan Marev), Osarian (Clan Skirata),
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 19:35:04 GMT -8
Thanks for that! I certainly appreciate it. I'll be sure to put this list off to the side so I can reference it later.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 20:32:09 GMT -8
I guess the question then becomes... whose laws will you be enforcing? After all, the FO will certainly have different laws to the Alliance, and different again to the II. And neutral worlds will again have different laws. So it will definitely put you guys in quite the tight spot to try enforce them all if that's the route you go.
That said, how will you guys deal with defectors that one side will say is a criminal whilst the other side claims is innocent? Certainly an interesting idea though.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on May 7, 2017 21:04:42 GMT -8
Victor does raise a good point. The First Order is a military junta/dictatorship while the Alliance is trying to restore the fallen Republic or at least present itself as a thorn in the side of the FO's operation (I think its more the latter though, if I am correct). Not sure if Alliance has a government setup though, that would be something that Aer would probably know more about.
Although, when I think about, I would think the Alliance actually doesn't have a unified code of law, unless they followed the Republic's law. So if you compare the two, I think the FO has a more unified standard of law compared to the Alliance at this present point. The Jedi and the Alliance seem more keen on defending free systems and former Republic territory from FO aggression. So my guess is that, if Alliance had laws, they probably followed local laws from system to system. The only united regions (in terms of law) would be the Corellian system, Jedi territory and Mon Cal is my bet. But this is all educated estimations. Would be great to hear what one of the Alliance leaders has to say.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 21:08:50 GMT -8
We are working the specifics out on that. So far it's pretty basic and I will try my best to explain it.
Neutral worlds: Criminals here, wanted on individual planets will be captured and returned to said planet to face trail. First Order Worlds: Within FO territory, if targets are criminals to the FO, they will be apprehended and returned to Munnilinst to be judged. (Same goes for the Alliance and Imperium). All captured Alliance criminals in FO territory will be captured while obeying FO law and returned to Felucia to be judged. (Same for the FO and Imperium) Neutral systems targets will be captured using which faction's law is applicable, if any. Should a target be found wanted by all three factions, the target will be captured and escorted to the Sector Ranger HQ (Which will eventually be discussed and set up), and a representative from each faction shall sit in and render judgement. (Think Manaan from KOTOR, Sith and Republic embassies, completely neutral ground, the whole works)
Obviously this is still just an outline as to how we would like it to work. we still have a lot more fine tuning and tweaking to do, however, we would value input from the all the involved factions on how such things should be handled. I think we could find a reasonable way to make this work without excluding anyone or giving any one else an advantage over the other.
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on May 7, 2017 22:35:30 GMT -8
I might be misunderstanding that, but my basic read on it is that if someone is declared a criminal by a faction, you will hand them over to that faction regardless of where you grabbed them.
If that is correct, them were will likely be an issue as with hostile parties you often have issues with extradition. Put very shortly, the Imperium would be very unhappy if the Alliance decided to claim Aya (the current head of state) as a criminal, she was captured & immediately handed over to the Alliance without the Imperium getting any say in the matter.
I think a simpler (& more likely to be accepted) route would be this. The Rangers enforce local laws, when called on for assistance from local law enforcement (basically functioning as a traveling on-call SWAT team). Second, they track down & return criminals within the territories of the faction that deemed them criminal (Basically, the person is immune to being dragged back to the faction if they manage to escape). Third, they enforce common laws regardless of territory (So if the criminal is a jaywalker for example & you catch him in an area where jaywalking is illegal he is fair game).
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 6:23:28 GMT -8
The Alliance has no intent of restoring the Republic. We are just an alliance of worlds resisting the tyranny of the FO. There is no central government. And from last I know, we were still deciding between Felicia and Mon Cal as the "capital" for the Alliance. To which end, it would act as a place military leader and government figures would meet at or work from to discuss battle plans. Obviously each world would share at least a certain common set of laws that would allow them to work together (murder is bad, slavery is evil, that kind of thing). After that, they would likely have some different additional laws that would differ from world to world, but not be anything that would prevent co-operation.
I think Admy has some pretty good points. It would certainly be a more inclusive way to work, without one side or another deciding to block you from their territory if you start taking asylum seekers/defectors back to the people they are escaping from. Also, the idea of a neutral world is rather interesting for the HQ and could provide some opportunity for IC interaction between representatives and Ranger command for organizing some missions and such. Could also pose an interesting chance for people to try and influence the Rangers more to one side or another.
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on May 8, 2017 8:30:38 GMT -8
Speaking of Manaan .... Why not make that the neutral point? Both for the rangers HQ & for talks between the RA & the FO?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 17:37:27 GMT -8
So essentially what @kazdeloucoa is trying to get at is that the Sector Rangers would be like the Interpol of the Star Wars universe. In the sense that Sector Rangers would keep as neutral as possible where the Rangers would not get involved in any Political or Military activities of any Faction. They would focus on Public Safety, Terrorism, crimes against humanity, Environmental crimes, genocide, War Crimes, Organized Crime, Illicit Trafficking, Weapons smuggling, Illicit Drug production, Drug trafficking, Trafficking of sentient beings, Credit laundering, White-collar crime, Computer crime, intellectual property crime and of course corruption. So when the Rangers enter orbit of a Planet either aligned to FO, the Alliance or II they would let the local Law enforcement agencies know who their where looking for, what crime they committed and of course request assistance if needed in the apprehension of that criminal. As for a criminal of any faction that is in another faction's territory they would be a fair trail, held on the Sector Ranger Command Station which will be located in neutral space, just like how there were embassies for the Republic and Sith Empire in KoToR same would go for the Sector Ranger Command Station.
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on May 13, 2017 17:52:30 GMT -8
That is what we were getting at. The main issue though is the active state of war between the two major factions (the II is a secondary faction & will be allied with one or the other). During WWII Interpol fell under the domain of the Germans & literally everyone else on the planet backed out of the agreement (until after the war). So yes, going Interpol style will solve some of your issues, but even then you will still need to get agreements with the RA & the FO (along with the Hutts, the II & any of the other minor/neutral factions) in order for that to work.
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Post by Stevan Stormro on May 13, 2017 18:15:26 GMT -8
If you can find a way to make this work I must admit to being absolutely fascinated by the idea of this. Out of morbid curiosity, would there happen to be any sort of religious-based discrimination or hate crime-esk laws that they would be enforcing?
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Post by The Admiralty OOC on May 13, 2017 18:25:47 GMT -8
SS, they would have to arrest half the galaxy as there are three competing religions (jedi, sith, mandos) that have been trying to wipe each other out for the last dozen or so millennium.
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Post by Stevan Stormro on May 13, 2017 18:31:05 GMT -8
I should like to think that there would be something resembling a statute of limitations on such things. xD
Also, there is technically a difference between aggression based on actual actions and aggression based solely on someone's professed religion.
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