Raid on Naboo - Planning Thread

Certainly no animosity here, at least on the OOC level. I had a lot of fun. You may have forced the IC Naboo people out of their shell and into a more active, anti-Imperial posture. The only complaint I would have is that if I had been properly informed of the scope of the attack, and that I needed to participate, I would have been able to power up my gravity well generators sooner. There is actually one more move that I could make to keep some of you from leaving the system, but I won't make it. I'm ok with ending it now. There's another RP that I want to focus on.

Do be sure to account for the damage to your forces, everyone. Give each other credit for the hard work we put into blasting each other.

To be clear, this was a general comment aimed at everyone, not just you, V. I'm sure your damage was minimal.

Oh dang, I missed that. Now I'm less annoyed that you escaped :-)

I must apologize for my disappearance. We'd been busy and working on a move, along with all the anxiety and stress that came with that. It's not completely finished either. Could I ask for a quick summary of what's happened to this point? I'd at least like to get in some kind of closure post.

They got rid of the Dioxis with close to minimal casualties and EVERYONE is pissed at the FO for the atrocities they would dare commit on a peaceful planet. lol

Evil endures because the good do nothing. Even if you didn't cause it... you did little to stop it. Unlike those of us that fought and put our lives on the line to save the citizens of Naboo.

(IC Response - no ooc animosity exists) Honestly those of us that fought there are just as mad at the GA as they are at the FO. The GA did nothing and then signed a peace treaty "ending the war"?

Now those of us that fight for the 'good guys' will be split with those that side with the GA... and those of us more radical (read as more involved soldiers of the war) are too angry to accept any sort of peace treaty.

^ What he said.


Also, I'm sorry, but aside from Naboo, exactly how many other encounters did you and your mighty band of warriors fight in against the FO?
Dantooine? Where the GA took on the FO and brought them to a stalemate. Oh wait, sorry, I guess your little ret-con made that possible that Janos and his crew were there.
Ossus? Nope, that was Aer and a handful of GA people again.
Taris? A sole GA fleet and a handful of ships took on two whole FO fleets.
Jabiim? Admittedly, I believe that you (Altair) were at that one, alongside a couple other GA resources.

So, let's see... 2 out of the 5 major conflicts that have happened on JvS (off the top of my head), was your almighty and great contribution to the war. And you are calling the GA out for what? Having like... 3 or 4 actual writers OOC, with like... 2 full actual fleets between them. Because every single person involved in Naboo on the "Resistances" side wanted to keep to a ship crew or operate alone, without an army of their own?
You say their is no OOC animosity, but your IC animosity, is born of OOC issues with the GA, which I have repeatedly and gone out of my way on multiple occasions to try and convince y'all to help fix.



So please... do go on about how the GA has done nothing to fight the FO and how 6 people on Naboo are these glorious and lonesome warriors of peace and freedom.



If anything, from an IC perspective, the GA views this as the perfect time to bring the FO to the table, so that they can ya know... GET SOME SHIT BUILT, cause half our side is like four ship crews with LITERALLY ZERO FORCES OF THEIR OWN. Plus, the 2 or 3 fleets that actually exist on JvS.
In a more OOC tone.... We had been trying to bring this all out war, into this next phase for a while. Bringing it to a point where, instead of having events like Dantooine, Taris, and Jabiim grinding to halts and being wrapped up almost 5 months later because people disappeared, we could have much smaller sized raids. Like Kessel (I believe was the one Janos/Jashin started). It just so happened, that someone who was invited to JvS, mislead us all as to the intent of his Naboo attack, and royally fucked some shit up. Before proceeding to get the fuck out of there.


YES, I am pissed about Naboo. Both OOC and IC. Did we not have enough resources there? Of course, because from an IC perspective, an attack like that happened in a matter of minutes/hours. The two other fleets that the GA owned, were on the literal other side of the Galaxy and would have taken hours, if not days, to show up in response to a distress beacon.
Could we have had some suspension of disbelief and had another fleet or two show up quicker? sure, if we had some more writers OOC willing to control a fleet or two.
From an OOC perspective, I am pissed, because someone was like "oh yeah, I have some ISB agents that are going to show up on Naboo and hunt the Wayward Sons. It's no big deal." and then proceeded to jump half a fleet in orbit, and decide "nope, I'm actually going to take advantage of my dickery, and ignore ALL of the defences that would otherwise stop me, and bomb Theed". Had Kel'Al (or literally anyone else) been informed properly of the intent, this shit wouldn't have happened.


So again... is the GA somewhat eager for a Peace Treaty, despite the actions of a lone FO officer, who operated well outside of the FO's usual MO? Yes, because the GA is the weaker side. Why? Because OOC, far too many people either want to be their own groups Head Honcho and not play nice with the GA leadership OR they don't/can't contribute an army or fleet to the greater GA.



Now. does this peace treaty mean hostilities have stopped? On a large scale yes. Does it mean covert operatives and/or smaller scale raids (and groups like your own have more RP opportunities) on either sides territory is stopped? No, and that is where the GA was going to start focusing it's efforts, since it seems no one wanted to field an army or navy.
I mean... you guys are pissed at a group, that is trying to make your lives and jobs more relevant and easier. Heaven forbid, that the GA get the FO on record as agreeing that Naboo was a tragedy and that chemical weapons should never be used again. Or you know, get them to agree to an armistice, so that more worlds don't fall victim like Naboo did.



But hey, I guess cause the GA signed a peace treaty, the exact details of it don't matter at all to your characters...
All this kind of bullshit, where you freely and vagrantly ignore anything the GA has done (beyond Naboo), is the reason that this faction is going to balls. I mean, even reading the draft for the Resistance, is like "well gee thanks guys. I am glad that I wasted a year building up the GA, to the point where they would FUND THE EVER LOVING SHIT out of this group, and having it all thrown in my face like the GA is the shitty New Republic from The Force Awakens", but hey... Jashin or who ever else it is gets to be the leader of it, and that is more important than having a cohesive faction that can get along, right?

First off... I clearly struck an ooc nerve that I had not intended.

Secondly I did say those of us that fought (which includes everyone that was there) so I didn’t forget that anyone was there...

Thirdly... I do not speak for everyone and I did not mean to ( I can see how it appears that way and I apologize)

Next... check again again... Jabiim was just me, everyone else ducked out after a post maybe 2. (Retcon has Janos on planet.) and I don’t mind nor am I mad about that.

After that... dantooine and ossus I saw as a closed rp so I chose not to intrude because I didn’t know what was already agreed upon.

After after that... just because the GA signs a treaty doesn’t mean the fighting stops? I agree 100% look at Rendilli, which is why such a thing never should have been signed. Or even discussed. But that isn’t my problem, nor do I really care until the GA ICly stops or interferes in the resistance’s war effort.

Once more... I personally hold no OOC animosity towards the GA, so clearly something else already has you on edge and I apologize for making it worse unintentionally. But don’t tell me how I feel OOC when you and I have said maybe 2 words to eachother since my return to JvS.

To conclude... I was not belittling anyone’s involvement in the war. I did express a distaste for the treaty, like any rebel should. “If you give way to an enemy this big and this evil you are one step closer to the ashes of jedha”... or in this case ossus.

As for your blatant distaste for my soldiers or my writing style (I’m not sure which you were insulting)... I have no reply. Because I don’t know you and you have no basis for such insults.

Also My origional post was directed at the chiss (who seems to be under the impression that it wasn’t his fault because he left) NOT ANY OF YOU!