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Post by Keith-070 on Dec 19, 2017 16:35:06 GMT -8
He did say it was an IC response to your character, not OOC.
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Post by Altair Sirraf on Dec 19, 2017 16:46:04 GMT -8
Like I said... ICly... we have variations upon the the definitions of multiple terms. In this case the terms “responsible” and “Justice”
And you’re right: you didn’t do anything else. And for that you are ok the same list all the first order is. Not sure exactly how this is confusing. It’s nothing against you Oocly. You’re just on the other side of the war.
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Post by Mike Frantz on Dec 19, 2017 17:11:36 GMT -8
Okay I'm going to step in for a moment and say a few things (in hopefully less words than the rest of you seem to want to be using) I believe you are defending things that aren't yours to defend I.E. the whole thing with the not being informed and such was directed at the attacker, who is the one who screwed things up because after promising not to mess up Naboo he did it anyway. Kel'Al wasn't paying attention to the defense because he was under the impression it was small scale and not large scale.
Secondly do you really need giant walls of text to take apart everything that was previously said despite saying in your first paragraph that that wasn't what you were going to do?
Thirdly, all of you seem to be big windedly arguing about something that is actually a big misunderstanding. The point is IC the Wayward crew of misfit toys doesn't agree with how the GA handles the FO and want to fight the FO, good for them and more power to them, but seriously giant arguments on the boards? we're back to that?
I'm no expert on people or talking or whatever but you all seem to be misinterpreting each other quite a bit and instead of explaining yourselves you're just going after everything everyone else says.
But that's just the thoughts of an unimportant fake alcoholic, so you can take them for whatever they are worth.
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Post by Janos Galfridian on Dec 19, 2017 17:29:58 GMT -8
You know what? Just forget it.
Lol.
Not worth it. Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain.
Offers beers - beers for everyone!
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Post by Mike Frantz on Dec 19, 2017 17:45:04 GMT -8
Enjoys the beers and averted catastrophe
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Post by Altair Sirraf on Dec 19, 2017 17:48:12 GMT -8
I don’t like beer... tastes like pissdirt. Cider or mead however... I am a large fan of. I HAVE RESPECT FOR MEAD(e)?!? Is there an E? I don’t remember
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 18:27:42 GMT -8
^ that’s a good sign that you have already had too much, when you don’t know how to spell the name of what you drink...
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Post by Kel'Al Raganella on Dec 23, 2017 20:48:26 GMT -8
Naboo will not be signing any peace treaty.
OOC, this is exactly the kind of RP hook I needed. IC, we're furious and plan to make the First Order either disown Yularen, or hold them responsible for his actions.
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Post by Vasari on Dec 23, 2017 20:52:34 GMT -8
Im pretty sure the new emperor had him executed...
... not that anyone would know that... of course.
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Post by Xakire on Dec 23, 2017 22:02:52 GMT -8
Yeah, Yularen was executed promptly once word of the atrocities on Naboo reached the Supreme Commander. The majority in the First Order of a whole IC are disgusted by it as well, I think.
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Post by Kel'Al Raganella on Dec 23, 2017 22:04:32 GMT -8
Is there any way the Naboo would learn of that execution?
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Post by Xakire on Dec 23, 2017 22:09:44 GMT -8
Is there any way the Naboo would learn of that execution? It was done in the Supreme Commander's office so it wasn't public and so I'm not entirely sure, I don't think its been stated if it was kept secret or not. I think that it would be logical for the First Order to make a big thing about how he was executed however, as a way to try and save face and show the galaxy they don't condone that. I know that it hardly makes up for what happened, but its something. On that note, I'd also say that the First Order would make a big deal out of how they are pleased with the provision in the Treaty of Maanan that bans chemical weapons. However, its not up to me. Nicademus Delvardus IV would be the one with the proper answers.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Dec 23, 2017 22:10:12 GMT -8
*Scratches head slightly*
Yularen's execution certainly wouldn't be hush hush. Though the way it was performed was behind closed doors. In Nic's shows, he would have told the First Order of this execution as a show of discipline and as an act for condoning the usage of chemicals. After all, Nicademus desires to make the First Order rule through obedience and loyalty, not fear and destruction. Propaganda does the job right over the threat of force.
Although Yularen was more executed, not just because of Naboo, but for trying to pull Nic's leg and play him a fool. Lied about a bunch of stuff like Yularen never ordered the gas attack or that the orbital strike on Theed Palace was a mistake in the targeting algorithm. Nicademus did not like it one bit.
So, in conclusion, I don't see why Naboo wouldn't have heard of it. Like I said, it would have been known to the First Order and not kept quiet. Probably would have been big news within the military and possibly for the public to know that Nicademus never approved of what happened on Naboo. So certainly it would have trickled to Naboo eventually.
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Post by Xakire on Dec 23, 2017 22:12:10 GMT -8
*Scratches head slightly* Yularen's execution certainly wouldn't be hush hush. Though the way it was performed was behind closed doors. In Nic's shows, he would have told the First Order of this execution as a show of discipline. Although Yularen was more executed, not just because of Naboo, but for trying to pull Nic's leg and play him a fool. Nicademus did not like it one bit. But, I don't see why Naboo wouldn't have heard of it. Like I said, it would have been known to the First Order and not kept quiet. So certainly it would have trickled to Naboo eventually. Well the rest of the galaxy doesn't need to know that All they need to know is that he was executed for atrocities and that the First Order does not condone such actions, never have and never will and have now officially banned chemical weapons.
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Post by Admiral Zey on Dec 23, 2017 22:12:16 GMT -8
I know Jashin and I have been operating on the assumption that it was widely disseminated to FO personnel. We more or less assumed that the GA would have learned about it via trickle down.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Dec 23, 2017 22:15:17 GMT -8
Pretty much the news would be that: "Yularen was executed for unapproved actions on Naboo and defying military protocol of the First Order. Then something about Nicademus condemning the usage of chemical warfare and so forth."
Furthermore: First Order does not approve of chemical warfare, Treaty of Manaan has a clause banning the usage of chemical warfare in the future, blah blah blah. You all get the picture by now.
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Post by Kel'Al Raganella on Dec 23, 2017 22:17:59 GMT -8
Sounds good. But we should make it legit IC information, not just assume. I'll try to fit some information acquisition into my very overdue cleanup and response posts, coming soon.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Dec 23, 2017 22:18:58 GMT -8
Sounds fine by me. Like I said, see no reason why the First Order would keep this on the down low.
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Post by Xakire on Dec 23, 2017 22:20:20 GMT -8
Pretty much the news would be that: "Yularen was executed for unapproved actions on Naboo and defying military protocol of the First Order. Then something about Nicademus condoning the usage of chemical warfare and so forth." Furthermore: First Order does not approve of chemical warfare, Treaty of Manaan has a clause banning the usage of chemical warfare in the future, blah blah blah. You all get the picture by now. Do you mean condemning not condoning?
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Dec 23, 2017 22:21:24 GMT -8
Condemning yes. Not sure why the hell I put condoning.
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