Taung H'rel
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Post by Taung H'rel on Jul 22, 2023 13:12:50 GMT -8
Shield Leviathan class Interdictor Image originally from KOTOR Cut Scene
Ship Class: Cruiser Ship Role: Fleet Defense Ship Length: 600m Agility (A): 2 Defensive (D): 3 Offensive (O): 3 Speed (S): 3 Special Gear (SG): 4 (2 Gravity Well Projectors, Advanced Targeting Systems, Hi-track weapons mountings, 2 Heavy Extendable Shield Generators) Total: 15 6 Dual Medium Turbolasers grouped into 2 batteries 148 Dual Light Turbolasers grouped into 18 batteries of 6 and 4 batteries of 5 32 Heavy Laser Cannons grouped into 8 batteries of 4 3 Tractor Beam Batteries 2 Gravity Well Projectors 2 Projected Shield Generators 36 Sith Starfighters 5,224 Crew Security Contingeng Troops 11,000 tons cargo 3 years of consumables An update of an old but well designed ship, the Shield Leviathan has been turned into a more of a general purpose cruiser that is leaned towards defense of larger fleet elements. Its projected shield generators replacing 2 of the 4 gravity well projectors, giving the ability to project area shields some distance without draining the ship of energy, at the cost only being able to produce a gravity field half the strength of a 4 gravity well ship. The enhanced targeting and hi-track weapons mountings takes full advantage of its lighter ship weaponry to be deadly to even medium sized ships with its withering fire, and death to starfighter swarms with its ability to punch harder, further, while still tracking nimble starfighters and pouring out a firestorm of directed death. Truly a ship that is a starfighter pilots nightmare given form.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Jul 22, 2023 19:03:29 GMT -8
The link is broken.
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Taung H'rel
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Post by Taung H'rel on Jul 22, 2023 21:37:58 GMT -8
Fixed the link. Wookie can be a major pain in the butt.
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Post by Taung H'rel on Jul 24, 2023 10:01:15 GMT -8
Also changed weapons descriptions for the less initiated.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:30:51 GMT -8
This looks pretty well done.
Why the points towards the 2 Heavy Projected Shield Generators? Is that meant to be similar to the Redundant Shield Generators?
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Post by Taung H'rel on Aug 1, 2023 19:32:39 GMT -8
No, like the shield projectors for cities, planetary shields, Endor Shield projector. Nothing of that strength of course or the range, just the ability to place shields out in front of other ships, or wrap them like the shields did on Endor. Something within a formation of ships. Or if it helps its a Mobile Shield Generator on a ship scale. Mobile Shield Generator
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 20:08:41 GMT -8
The issue though is that we don't allow for ground tech to be used as star vessel compatible. Nor do we allow for shield projectors of larger volumes, such as the planetary mention, to be allowed either. We had a discussion of someone wanting to use the space variant of a ground based ion cannon as a "superweapon" for their submission. It was ruled that ground-based technology was ground-based and couldn't be used in the equivalent fashion in space. And, since we don't have R&D elements for our Databank, unfortunately, it is something that cannot be allowed.Edit: Unless... hold on Edit 2: You mean something like this? Stormborn-class Jedi Star Defender and AĆ©rondel, Halo-class Star CityLook at the tech and explanations. I think using the Mobile Generator was not the right example we needed here. These vessels utilized Redundant Shield Generators and Extended Shielding Range with their Special Gears to ensure they could, at least, protect smaller vessels by doing so. It isn't specific, like the Endor Shield, but it more encompasses a radius from the vessel, not a separate module that can be released/utilized to perform such a job.
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Post by Taung H'rel on Aug 1, 2023 20:37:16 GMT -8
I don't think either of those properly describes it. The Aerondel is probably closer but doesnt give a description. is more of what I was picturing. Being able to reach out and protect a different ship.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 20:52:23 GMT -8
The Aerondel mentions this:
So it is a dome with which it expands to help protect vessels within a certain range/close proximity.
Unfortunately, I do not think we have a ship based example where a shield reaches out and targets a specific vessel to protect. The usage of the ground based variant does explain what you are looking to do, but unless there is a canon/legends example of this happening in space, by a space ship and not a ground based shield, it is not something approved within the Databank. If something is mentioned as ground-based, it is ground-based. If something is mentioned to be space-based, then it is space-based. We do some times have some grey areas, but I do believe this falls into the category of not approved.
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Taung H'rel
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Post by Taung H'rel on Aug 1, 2023 21:10:36 GMT -8
So demonstrating that the technology is canon isnt enough... What kind of sense does that make?
If it were that simple then Anakin and Obi-wan could have just poked the ray shield generator inside the bubble on General Grievous ship...as by your understanding...it would have to be in the shield with them...and they could poke it with a lightsaber....that they both had.
Going from atmosphere to space, or from space to atmosphere is arguably far more technically complex.
I am trying to do the same thing...with a single ship, not even a fleet....not a 200 km sphere projected 4000 kilometers from ground to space.
I think I am going to ask for a quote and a link to this decision that you are siting for why I need something that is clearly demonstrated as canon that operates in one place, and why it can't operate in another. When clearly the technology is well understood and mastered in universe.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 21:33:27 GMT -8
We did make a judgment here about planetary weapons. Our stance is, as stated before, if it is only ground-base, it is thus. If it is space-based only, it is thus. It makes things easier to be clarified as such. The technology is canon, but unless there is a specific example where a projected shield is released by a ship to cover another ship, it is not approved. The issue that could be viewed here is that this technology was R&D from a ground-based example, which the Databank does not allow as when it was being conceived and approved, the Whills did not want R&D to be an element.
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Taung H'rel
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Post by Taung H'rel on Aug 1, 2023 21:47:19 GMT -8
If that is the case can you give me an example of shields being expanded in space? I am wracking my brain and can't come up with anything. Expanded inertial compensation field yes, but that isnt shields.
If I can't find anything then I'll just do it that way or just make them stronger.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 22:02:34 GMT -8
I honestly can't think of one myself. I only think of the Death Star II and it's planetary-based shield. Probably why the set up for both the Jedi Defender and Star City had the extended range added with the redundant shields to help protect a dome of extra shielding. Upside is that you get your effect, but downside is that ships would need to be within the bubble and thus clustered together. It would allow for better concentration of firepower with such a testudo style of shielding.
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Post by Zion Morviael [RETIRED] on Aug 1, 2023 22:07:03 GMT -8
the MC-95 Star Cruiser was our use case for the Stormborn-class Jedi Star Defender, AĆ©rondel, Halo-class Star City, and the Astarii-class Shield Fighters ability to provide an extended shield envelop with which to provide protection to other vessels close by.
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Taung H'rel
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Post by Taung H'rel on Aug 2, 2023 6:28:09 GMT -8
It could be that I am sleep deprived, but I couldn't find anything in any of the articles for the MC95 even mentioning having shields, let alone something special.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 2, 2023 6:35:55 GMT -8
You are not sleep deprived, I checked myself and didn't see it. Are you sure you meant the MC-95, Zion?
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Post by Zion Morviael [RETIRED] on Aug 2, 2023 11:44:51 GMT -8
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Taung H'rel
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Post by Taung H'rel on Aug 2, 2023 12:39:19 GMT -8
That says the shields are durable and advanced, nothing about expanding or extending them.
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Post by Zion Morviael [RETIRED] on Aug 2, 2023 14:46:25 GMT -8
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Taung H'rel
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Post by Taung H'rel on Aug 2, 2023 14:54:28 GMT -8
Interesting. It also mentions angling the shields. Almost like they copied my super ships from a bygone era.
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