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Post by Aherk Fyyar on Jun 30, 2015 18:57:43 GMT -8
It was an open spray, aiming at both combatants.
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Post by Yama on Jul 3, 2015 11:39:14 GMT -8
Once again sorry, my 4yr had yet another ear infection, we got that taken care of and now she has strep, that on top of work and I've had little time to check in and see if anyone else has posted. Sorry to keep you guys waiting. I posted something
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 3, 2015 23:20:31 GMT -8
Is there any chance I could get permission to hit Yama with the shoulder bash so I can edit my post to take the remainder of your post and pretty much all of Aherk's into account, instead of post-cutting both of you as is the case right now? And don't worry about timing as far as posting is concerned. Life gets hectic sometimes, and I think we all understand that. I only ask that you give us a heads up if you think it'll be longer than a couple days.
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Post by Yama on Jul 4, 2015 3:04:50 GMT -8
Yea I'm ok with a post cut if Aherk is, so are you hitting me before I can speak, before I can load the grenade, or after all that?
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Post by Yama on Jul 4, 2015 3:05:33 GMT -8
With getting that close and personal where are you looking to take this? If he is a loyal juicer charged with going after the rogues I curious why he has gone after a non juicer without see who he is and what the hell he is doing in here. He is kinda going against the standard rules of engagement
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 4, 2015 5:50:54 GMT -8
Not really. Yama killed civilians. That puts him in the same category as the rogue juicers. Though right now I don't really have a plan on where to take this. I'm just going where the writing leads. Another threat appeared from behind, so he had nowhere to go but forward even if he'd wanted to stop, and Yama was in his way so he had to go through him in order to get to a safer location.
Honestly though, the dead civvies are going to be tough to talk his way out of, if he even gets the chance. "Look before you leap" would have served Yama well in this instance. Lol.
And he's hitting him while he's reaching for the grenade in his pouch, so it's before he loads it or speaks.
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Post by Aherk Fyyar on Jul 4, 2015 5:54:11 GMT -8
He's a Juicer. Odds are he's been in the facility for a bit and has a general idea of who should and should not be there. A massive cat-thing that has never been seen there before, slinking around and strapped up? Around the same time the rogues are going ballistic? I'd sure as hell be trained on him.
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Post by Yama on Jul 4, 2015 7:32:21 GMT -8
I was framed I swear!! Haha
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 4, 2015 8:33:54 GMT -8
How is Yama able to generate force from the position he's in? Even if the juicers head is on the same side as the pouch, it's going to be pressed against his side as the shoulder powers into him. There wouldn't be any distance for a blow to build up power, and even getting the hand into position is going to be a chore.
Edit: On second thought, I think I can make it work. I'll have to take a couple liberties with positioning and such though, in order to account for how you're trying to hit him.
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Post by Yama on Jul 4, 2015 9:10:26 GMT -8
The height of Yama vs average juicer gives me that distance, also you only stated a charge, which makes me think of a football player charging, throwing a shoulder in.
It's also been stated that a Tog is more than a match for a human juicer. I'd imagine the visor wouldn't be too difficult to break
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Post by Yama on Jul 4, 2015 9:12:19 GMT -8
I also wonder where my 'partner' is and why the higher ups haven't called this guy off me since I'd imagine they'd be watching everything thru security cameras
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 4, 2015 9:23:55 GMT -8
You mean the partner who told you not to kill any civilians, as per your employers instructions? Then the very first thing you did upon entering was kill a civilian? If I was the employer (which I guess I am), I would have written Yama off as a liability by now, given his seemingly innate propensity for excessive loss of life and lack of ability to follow instructions. >_>
At 3 meters, Yama's only two feet taller at most, but that doesn't mean much when the juicers head is sandwiched against the side of his ribcage. If a 4 foot tall person does that to me in real life, I'd still have to twist away from them in order to get the necessary range of motion to hit them in the face with any significant force, and even then I'd have to hit them with an upward motion, not a downward one like Yama did (more or less doing a curl into their face). I literally just went over these kinds of takedowns and guillotine holds earlier this week, and Yama may be strong, but the only strength he can use in this position is in his arm because he has no leverage or position advantage.
Using a downward motion like you describe would mean hitting Flyn on the back of his helmet, but even then you're sacrificing position and leverage in order to get the fist in close enough to hit his head.
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Post by Vidalu Na'an on Jul 4, 2015 13:03:12 GMT -8
I'd also like to point out that while nonlethal by design, holding on to a flash grenade while it detonates (like it sounds like you do) would DEFINITELY cause the damage you supposedly discounted as impossible. Yama should be out a hand at least,as well as blinded by his own weapon going off in such close proximity to his face.
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Post by Yama on Jul 4, 2015 13:03:11 GMT -8
Ok this creates more questions than answers. Average male height around the world is 5'5 -6'0. Yes it was mentioned the juicer is faster, stronger, smarter, has muscle mass than average person but I saw nowhere the drug increases height by spurring bone growth. With this in mind the height difference would be nearly 4ft.
Also think sitting at the dinner table, fork in one hand, knife in other banging on the table waiting on dinner. That fist action is what Yama did, but your head was the table. It was meant to off balance you before the grenade upper cut
This is all how I've seen it in my minds eye
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Post by Yama on Jul 4, 2015 13:09:21 GMT -8
I'd also like to point out that while nonlethal by design, holding on to a flash grenade while it detonates (like it sounds like you do) would DEFINITELY cause the damage you supposedly discounted as impossible. Yama should be out a hand at least,as well as blinded by his own weapon going off in such close proximity to his face. Where did you come from?! The body of the juicer is between the flash bang and i, as for the hand, no due to the crushgaunts he is wearing. Thanks for the ideas though .
This sl just began and hasn't been very active so I'm not trying to kill pcs,but further the development of the story in hopes of sparking interest and in turn more participation
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Post by Vidalu Na'an on Jul 4, 2015 13:12:33 GMT -8
Impossible. If you're that much taller than him (I believe the words you used were 'several feet'?) your face is still exposed. And I'm pretty sure crushgaunts aren't designed to protect a hand from a point-blank explosion.
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Post by Yama on Jul 4, 2015 13:23:05 GMT -8
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CrushgauntIf it can catch a saber, deflect Blaster bolts, I think it can withstand a flash bang. If you read the posts you'd see it hit the juicer with an upper cut movement to use the body of the juicer to take most of the blast; to shield Yama of sorts. With your obvious interest in the workings of our posts, might I assume you'll be joining us in writing?
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 4, 2015 14:38:18 GMT -8
An increase in bone mass and density would be required in order to support the new muscle growth and not shatter from the exertion of it, and Urgayle is nearly a full two meters tall. Juicers would also differ in their starting heights, so there's no reason Flyn wouldn't be at least seven feet or taller (as I've indicated he is).
Regardless, smashing a table in front of you is quite a bit different than smashing something right under your armpit. See the difference? His head isn't out in front of you, its tucked against your ribs beneath your arm.
I'm also not sure how Yama got driven into a wall when they were both heading straight into the room when he got hit.
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Post by Vidalu Na'an on Jul 4, 2015 18:00:24 GMT -8
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CrushgauntIf it can catch a saber, deflect Blaster bolts, I think it can withstand a flash bang. If you read the posts you'd see it hit the juicer with an upper cut movement to use the body of the juicer to take most of the blast; to shield Yama of sorts. With your obvious interest in the workings of our posts, might I assume you'll be joining us in writing? 1. I've clearly read the post if I have an issue with it. No need to be condescending. 2. Unless you work on anime logic, uppercuts don't propel a human body several feet upward, especially if you're smashing your other fist DOWNWARD at the exact same moment. They propel the body backwards, hence why most people receiving an uppercut end up on their ass. 3. You never actually mention what direction the other fist comes from in your post, which makes it imply that they both come DOWN.
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Post by Yama on Jul 5, 2015 4:48:43 GMT -8
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CrushgauntIf it can catch a saber, deflect Blaster bolts, I think it can withstand a flash bang. If you read the posts you'd see it hit the juicer with an upper cut movement to use the body of the juicer to take most of the blast; to shield Yama of sorts. With your obvious interest in the workings of our posts, might I assume you'll be joining us in writing? 1. I've clearly read the post if I have an issue with it. No need to be condescending. 2. Unless you work on anime logic, uppercuts don't propel a human body several feet upward, especially if you're smashing your other fist DOWNWARD at the exact same moment. They propel the body backwards, hence why most people receiving an uppercut end up on their ass. 3. You never actually mention what direction the other fist comes from in your post, which makes it imply that they both come DOWN. Have we come to the point of lists?! 1. Please don't try to 'educate' me, it's becoming a bit annoying, and the fact that you're not even involved in this sl is that more annoying. Now if you wish to join that's great, if not please just stop. Though you have the right to your opinion you'll be ignored. Noone likes a backseat driver 2. I've literally never mentioned sending anyone several feet up or back. If your referring to smashing a flashbang into someone's face sure I guess that could be considered an upper cut, VERY loosely C. Please refer to #1 on this, you obviously have never played football and charged someone with a shoulder. You tuck the head down, not look up unless you want a broken neck. 5. If you have any further issues with said posting, just let the thoughts go because you're not exactly being proactive or assisting with the growth and development of the sl. I have a very busy life, this is a leisure activity which isn't worth the headache it's becoming. I'd hope this begins to go smoother or I may just back out completely leaving only 2 active in this sl...not very much you can do with 2. My focus is the story, not killing other people's pcs
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