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Post by Aherk Fyyar on Jul 5, 2015 5:37:40 GMT -8
She was going to make an entrance later. Of course, now that you've won Collaborator Of The Year, that may be up in the air.
Look, you've got two people wondering just what the hell is going on, and I haven't posted at all precisely because I'm still trying to make sense of it. We're all here trying to figure this out, and if you're taking it as us trying to "educate" you then there are deeper problems than unclear writing. Trust me, if you were being educated, the three of us could really drop the hammer. This is us trying to figure out what you've been writing.
Besides, calling someone out on not being proactive or assisting with the growth of the SL is a bold move, sir. Bold.
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Post by Yama on Jul 5, 2015 7:04:45 GMT -8
The educate comment was for her, up until she jumped in I believed we were discussing things and working out the details since it seems like we keep missing each other in understanding what the hell each of us is doing, all in a civil manner with no issues.
I have no issues with you guys, I do have issue with the way she just jumped in,and how she went about things
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Post by Yama on Jul 5, 2015 7:19:20 GMT -8
www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/children-in-camp-mess-hall-pounding-forks-on-table-male-stock-footage/551-52The position of the fist is what I was describing, not a punch. It wasn't a hit meant to cause any real damage, but to try to throw you off balance before smashing (better choice of words is placing with vigor) the flashbang into the face area of the juicers helmet. I stated I was going to be hurt as well which would amount to some temp hearing loss, and burns on my abdominal area which was going to be called on myself after you posted Shadow. Flash damage would be little since the head of the juicer is covering the flashbang. I left alot of room for the calling of damage from fatal to temp non fatal. I don't know how important this npc is to you or how important to this sl it is. Hell I'm not sure what the hell happened to the other writers that were apart of this sl. I'm not looking to end this sl for myself right now but to further it for everyone since we haven't exactly gotten very far within the sl and it's stalling
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 5, 2015 7:30:58 GMT -8
First off, let me just say that voiding your participation in the SL isn't going to do anyone any favors. I despise that "solution" with the fiery passion of a thousand hells, and instead of using the opportunity to grow and improve, you'd be running away from an otherwise awesome SL. And I can't see a way for you to make a clean break without voiding, so please don't do that. It happened the last time Trask tried to work with a guy who only played by his own rules, and left an ugly, gaping hole in the SL as a result.
That said, I do still have questions that didn't get answered. The first being how Yama was driven into a wall despite the fact that they were both only a couple steps into the room and heading straight forward.
The second is more of a clarification than a question. The juicer's head position seems to be getting lost in translation, and I tried explaining it better in my last post here but it seems to have been overlooked. Even in football, you don't hit the other guy with your head. You hit them with your shoulder and tuck your head against their side. Hitting them with your head is a really bad idea regardless of how it's positioned.
So in summary, his head is not in a position to be easily smashed down upon (or up against) without a fair bit of maneuvering that hasn't happened yet, and I'm not sure how they ended up against a wall.
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 5, 2015 7:33:41 GMT -8
www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/children-in-camp-mess-hall-pounding-forks-on-table-male-stock-footage/551-52The position of the fist is what I was describing, not a punch. It wasn't a hit meant to cause any real damage, but to try to throw you off balance before smashing (better choice of words is placing with vigor) the flashbang into the face area of the juicers helmet. I stated I was going to be hurt as well which would amount to some temp hearing loss, and burns on my abdominal area which was going to be called on myself after you posted Shadow. Flash damage would be little since the head of the juicer is covering the flashbang. I left alot of room for the calling of damage from fatal to temp non fatal. I don't know how important this npc is to you or how important to this sl it is. Hell I'm not sure what the hell happened to the other writers that were apart of this sl. I'm not looking to end this sl for myself right now but to further it for everyone since we haven't exactly gotten very far within the sl and it's stalling I know the position you're describing, but his head is not in front of Yama. It's under his arm against his ribcage. Try doing that motion on a cantaloupe stuck under your armpit and you'll see what I mean. |
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Post by Yama on Jul 5, 2015 7:39:46 GMT -8
For the wall question, I rounded the corner and used the wall as cover. I posted that with the burning in the shoulder damage I accepted from you, and the corner I turned on was eaten up by the spray of fire. So to me the charge would have been you turning the corner and coming at me to be pushed me against the wall pinning me. If not the case I'll gladly change my post completely. In an open area I would have rolled back using your momentum to gain the top. We can take this into a ground fighting match if you want.
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Post by Yama on Jul 5, 2015 7:45:09 GMT -8
If it's easier I'll just redo my post entirely with the wall to my side and you coming at me head on with me not backed against the wall
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 5, 2015 7:47:34 GMT -8
I read it as rounding the corner through the door and heading straight into the room, which is why Flyn even hit Yama in the first place (because he was in the way). Since Yama was still looking for cover after first entering the room, I assumed he hadn't found any aside from just entering the room itself (and you never said he moved to avoid my shots, just that only one grazed him and the rest missed. Which is kind of insulting, if I'm honest... Lol).
I think it would be easier to go from the straight into the room collision, and we'd have to edit less posts doing it that way. Otherwise I'd need to go back and edit my post as well.
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Post by Yama on Jul 5, 2015 7:56:48 GMT -8
Ok when I get time I'll rewrite my last post with a head on collision in mind. At work right now weighing in a freon charge.
Glad we could come to an agreed upon term.
Yea you aimed while running right where my heart would be. I rounded the corner of the doorway so tech I didn't actively dodge it, I like to think of it as luck. You know what Yama has to do to keep his fur super soft for the ladies? !?! That's like burning part of my beard, I'd be pissed!! You did emotional damage haha
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 5, 2015 8:00:23 GMT -8
Lol.
Another question I had is what visible armor is Yama wearing?
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Post by Yama on Jul 5, 2015 8:24:18 GMT -8
Other than the helmet community.wizards.com/forum/mess-hall/threads/2160241scroll down to Togorian Weapons Expert. The armor is on the light side to protect vitals but not slow and restrict movement. This allows Yama to move silently, and maintain his flexibility. Yes Yama could wear alot of armor and still fight will but it would slow him down, and make more noise. Same question for your guy |
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 5, 2015 8:36:29 GMT -8
Flyn is in full heavy armor, complete with a couple built in weapons.
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Post by Yama on Jul 6, 2015 9:31:00 GMT -8
So would it be fair to assume that Yama would have speed and flexibility on his side?
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 6, 2015 9:47:20 GMT -8
Flexibility perhaps, but not speed. Even with Flyn's armor, Yama's size is going to give him significantly more bulk, and Flyn is going to have a much higher strength to mass ratio, as well as reaction times well beyond unaugmented capability.
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Post by Yama on Jul 6, 2015 10:00:33 GMT -8
I posted, you being a martial artist (I believe you mentioned ) you should know what I'm trying to do here.
I'd like to think of myself as sleek and muscular, not 'bulky' that just makes me feel fat! !
I tried to leave the door open for the 'unlikely partner' angle, maybe a plot twist or furthering of th sl beyond just fighting and killing
You know the whole 'enemy of my enemy'
We have someone firing at us both, I think this may fall under that
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 6, 2015 11:37:31 GMT -8
At 3 meters tall with increased bone density even a comparatively sleek Tog has to weigh close to 500 pounds, and Flyn, even in armor, would top out at just over 4 thanks to lightweight, high-strength polymers
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 6, 2015 12:51:49 GMT -8
Apologies for the plain text. I'm posting on my phone so I'll have to edit the colors in later.
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Post by Yama on Jul 6, 2015 13:40:14 GMT -8
I got post cutted
I guess I'll be post cutting for the appropriate reaction to your change in movement. May end up using you as a human shield just gotta figure out how.
So am I to assume this is no longer about about sl but the kill?
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Post by The Shadow King on Jul 6, 2015 14:14:19 GMT -8
The only reason Flyn was able to react to your sprawl is because of his enhancements, and even he had to move as fast as he could to pull it off. And his movements take less time to carry out than Yama's sprawl. How is he going to register the movement and react before its completed?
And for me as the writer, it's always about the story and the characters. It's just that the story in this case means that Yama, Flyn, and Formi are all trying to kill each other. I'm honestly not expecting Flyn to survive the encounter, but I'm also not going to nerf him or go against his character, which is the same thing I expect from you and Formi.
If you're dead set against character death even when the story leads there, we can try and work something out, but at this point it's going to be difficult.
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Post by Yama on Jul 7, 2015 4:43:24 GMT -8
m.youtube.com/watch?v=-a0X027mNtYThe video will give a better visual There is no pre movement to this move but a reaction to when you made contact so for you to change movements to counter a move that doesn't exist until you're already making contact isn't possible even with 'enhancements' unless you're pre cognitive and we don't know it. If you suddenly straightened up with rifle in hand (didn't know you still had it there since you just now mentioned it's current location) it'll change my post since it would be unwise to continue doing something that won't work. Much like when you post cutted before I withdrew a grenade, it's pointless for me to continue with the change of situation so my 'cat like reflexes' react to the change. With your change of movement a hook and roll back maybe more appropriate so I take the full mount and you don't have the room to move and fire that rifle. Also since I have my weapons listed mind listing yours?
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