Dread Lord Havok
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 9, 2022 11:18:10 GMT -8
LOL. Getting him to say Dragarysss. That's rich! So, consolidating Havok's SSE story line with Dragus and the Eye is complicated. In Havok's timeline, he disappeared from Pzob 110 years ago and popped up 10 years ago. The NOE was gone. No one from the NOE seemed to be around and the blackguard held Pzob. So I though the NOE was done and finished. So My RP reflected that, and I was basically writing a broken Havok that was trying to find meaning in a meaningless existence. I liked Nic and how he wrote his character and so I was like, what the hey, The FO is the closest thing to an imperial remnant faction- and I wasn't interested to jump in bed with dark jedi or black guards that always seem to demand a pyramid of loyalty. Getting back in the saddle and plausibly RPing a sith seer was hard enough, I didn't want to deal with people who didn't understand my process telling me what to do when I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do. ANyway, so I came up with the SSE and sold the Idea to Nic. The hiding thing is because the FO somehow got all moral and shit, banning slavery and stuff. Havok has to hide his sith existence from the FO at large to keep the imperial knights and the knights of ren off his trail. Havok has been doing his SSE thing for 10 years before he felt the call of Pzob and the temple and came back to find Dragus and Kaan. And then suddenly you popped up and we tried to put the band back together, and Kaan and bacca posted a few times, and you stuck around. And this site has been 10x more fun because of it. All of the decline of the Eye, and everything is kind of a give and take to explain how its just you and me, but still giving them the option to come back. So- consulting my RP archive, the loyalty of Havok is complicated by the fact that he has sworn an oath to Nic. Havok swore and prophesized that Nic would be safe from Havok as long as Nic maintained the order and laws of the Empire. If you can't tell, Havok is kinda lawful evil. However, to complete the deal, Nic had to issue a command to Havok. Nic never completed the RP by ordering Havok to deal with Brother Eli. SO- technically, Havok could walk away and it would not be a betrayal. BUT, Havok is a fan of order and he sees no reason to betray Nic if Nic continues to enforce law and order in the galaxy. Havok could also die and resurrect himself and that would also fulfill his promise to Nic. I say resurrect himself like its no big deal. LOL. Have you read Havok's interaction with Nic? boards.jedivsith.com/thread/4434/convocation-hall?page=5Continues here boards.jedivsith.com/thread/4435/emperors-suiteBefore you came back, I also was setting up a thing where I'd use Brother Eli to make the FO more religious and anoint Nic as the "Holy Emperor of Mankind" not to be confused with the God-Emperor of all mankind. Its like a Pope vs. God distinction. I still think that the Adventists of the Eye are compatible with the FO, if Nic becomes the Holy Emperor: Palpatine is god. Palpatine/god created the Empire/FO. Palpatine/god created the First and Second Eyes of Palpatine. The Order of the Eye are the faithful stewards over the Second Eye, and the Holy Emperor is the Faithful Steward over the Empire. All that is required is Nic Acknowledging the eventual return and supremacy of Palpatine as a God, and the two points of view are entirely compatible. |
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Post by Dragus on Oct 9, 2022 13:53:52 GMT -8
Eh, Draggy is just being the serpent in the garden, as is his nature. He can be convinced of anything if its in his better interests, nor does he need more of an explanation (since its complicated) beyond Havok playing coy. Was just seeing what I could dig out of ya ;-)
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Dread Lord Havok
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 9, 2022 13:58:07 GMT -8
I write posts that don't feel right, and then I stop and pause and think about it. For instance, I drafted an entire post for Tyna. But I only posted the part that felt right so far.
I should probably ask do you have a plan for going in the tunnel?
I wrote a whole thing where Tyna basically refuses to go in the tunnel (ptsd from the kinrath cave) expects to get slapped by Starkiller (but doesn't of course), and then suddenly finds her big girl pants and wants to kill all the Tuk'ata. Its kinda manic and disjointed. Its not very good except for:
She was not as good of a shot as Havok was. She dropped her blaster. He drew the double bladed light saber and ignited it to wait. She hoped that the Tuk'ata would find her. She freely allowed the force to flow through her body, no longer attempting to hide who or what she was. No fear of discovery, no fear of beasts, no AT-ST crew was holding her back. Only the chains of her own mind. She might die. But to die without touching power and freedom would be to have never lived...
She felt the stubbly hairs on he scalp and neck stand up, and felt sparks dance from her finger tips. She held up her hand to watch blue electricity spark and arch between her finger tips. The sensation tickled and hurt like her hand was being stung by a swarm of wasps and tickled by their beating insect wings.
She smiled, turning to Starkiller her dearest friend.
"No, any creature foolish enough not to bow to me will be culled. They feel the force. They will feel my power and know I am the greater predator. It has been long since Lord Kryptman hunted here. A hunt is overdue."
Basically she tries use the sith language to get them to listen to her, and she kills the ones that don't ultimately bend to her will. ... Which is giving me ideas on how to go forward.
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Dread Lord Havok
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 9, 2022 14:13:59 GMT -8
Eh, Draggy is just being the serpent in the garden, as is his nature. He can be convinced of anything if its in his better interests, nor does he need more of an explanation (since its complicated) beyond Havok playing coy. Was just seeing what I could dig out of ya ;-) I love Dragus doing it. Havok makes much ado about loyalty but then fraternizes with the FO. No, its a perfectly reasonable question for Dragus to drop on Havok. Aside, I kinda feel like the NOE was the Sith Eternal before the Sith Eternal showed up in the movies. The Adventist of the Eye philosophy of waiting for the return of Palpatine actually makes the two groups very compatable. Its just that the NOE has been around much longer, and we make way more sense than the sith eternal (as depicted in the movie). So, I think they should join us. They would literally give up nothing. Its not like they can RP Palpatine's shriveled clone body like in the movie- the rules don't allow it. (unless they have changed since I last read them). So it's not like they are in possession of the God-Emperor's glorious shriveled self. I freaking hate the last movie, except the Sith eternal and Palpatine. but the huge fleet with super lasers? *eye roll* The stupid obsession with a Force dyad? COME ON!! Havok and Dragus are more of a Dyad than Rey and Kylo. The sith eternal should have just worshiped palpatine like a god and created bodies for him and that's it. If the NOE had developed on Wayland instead of Pzob, we could have had a cult that centered around creating the perfect clone replication of Palpatine's holy body- only a perfect duplicate would allow God's soul to once again return... that's probably where we'd be if we hadn't centered our believes on the Eye. But moving to the Adventists, we are focusing more on Palpatine's Advent and that basically makes us Sith-Eternal-adjacent. So there is the potential for our groups to join. I see no reason why, based on our mutually shared beliefs, we can't be friends. |
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Post by Dragus on Oct 9, 2022 16:21:58 GMT -8
Lol, just as Bacca would have wanted. The power of the darkside is great, but it pales in comparison to the power of friendship!
Don't even get me started on the movies. Watched The Last Jedi in theaters with the Mrs and she told me after she's never seen me so visibly upset with a movie before. Rise of the Skywalker was actually the first SW movie I actively refused to see in theaters.
For Dragus' purpose, he plans to use and abuse them. They have the resources he needs, young Sith in need of his 'guidance', and very little oversight (at least of himself as his experience gained him a senior position right off the cuff). Originally I was gunna try to step away from all the Eye stuff, but it's such a rich history, cool concept, and so entrenched within his identity that it proved impossible for me to resist.
It goes without saying Havok is welcome to join if he wants. Pretty much could walk right in and snag another senior spot beside Dragus on their version of the high council.
I kinda like Havok being in the FO. If Xeonon ever gets time to post again, Drags could have Hav sneak him into the Imperial Palace and freak em out by running into him in the staircase or sneaking into his room.
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Dread Lord Havok
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 9, 2022 19:28:46 GMT -8
Heh heh. *begins work on a barabel sized jack in the box* That will teach Xeonon! *plays dubstep version of Pop goes the weasel*
I like the idea of still being part of the FO. it allows me to scratch Havok's itch for paper work, records, and trams that run on time, damn it! Havok always wanted to be in the Intelligence services, and its easier to justify having rare items or materials for research and dark side experiments in an IC empire that spans IC planets, like the NOE used to.
As far as the Sith Eternal goes, I'd be game to try any number of things if Dragus was involved. Havok can always justify "joining" as going undercover to infilterate a new potential threat to the FO. Are they cool people to RP with?
Just wanted to re-highlight the question: do you have plans for going in the tuk'ata den/tunnel? Or rather, would any plans be ruined if Tyna refused to go in the tunnel?
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Post by Dragus on Oct 10, 2022 3:17:35 GMT -8
It's all the same people as the FO. Nic is Xitan, Jenia is an imp royal guard, Harnor is a devil looking sorceror. The one I'm RPing with in Nime is another fleet commander whose name I'm not sure about. So literally all the same people, lol.
No specific plans from me. Proceed however you wish and I will pick it up from there.
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 10, 2022 7:35:48 GMT -8
Ok. Groovy.
I kinda wanna do a one-off halloween post or something. Not here necessarily. Just somewhere...
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Post by Dragus on Oct 11, 2022 5:43:52 GMT -8
There is always the netherworld. Did one in the chaos topic for halloween last year. I actually have a neat idea for a standalone post as well, the return of a not-so-ancient evil figure from NOEs halloween's past. Gunna borrow Pzob's terrain for it. Should hopefully be worth a giggle when its done.
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 12, 2022 16:51:33 GMT -8
All Hail Lord Fragus! Stinker of Worlds! Blaster of Gasses! O great ponderous paunch! Bless your frail followers with your fecund flatus!
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Post by Dragus on Oct 12, 2022 17:59:46 GMT -8
Given that Fragus is an evil clone of Dragus, and Dragus is an evil clone of Endor, that makes Fragus an evil evil clone...which I should think is worse.
I let myself get a bit divided there with too many competing ideas. Like night ewoks? How have I not thought of that before? Bloody brilliant. Definitely requires further exploration at some point.
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 13, 2022 7:31:35 GMT -8
I like that you're doing things with technology toned down. Because, the force was around before tech, Danthomir style. Seriously you're on to something with night ewoks, if they are like the night sisters.
Yeah, how has Dragus not transplanted a couple ewok colonies to Pzob? Totally makes sense that a colony may have gone feral. In general, As long as ewoks are ok to kill on Pzob, just like Gamorreans, I have no problem with it. We could create a colony with a lore of brutal gamorrean/ewok wars. Maybe make those ones taller and more muscular, and write them like mini wookies.
I can't help it but think, that Havok would be liberally using satellite surveillance and orbital strikes. That's why we talked and made the deep woods a no fly zone so Tyna doesn't call in air support. XD
note to self. ghost hunters
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 17, 2022 16:47:36 GMT -8
Well. I completed a post. Not the one that I was planning on. but whateves. Rishi ready to go for you.
I am trying out Havok with the drug injectors. Not sure if I will keep them, but they might be cool for making visions or something. I donno. :/
I also got an idea for Havok's chambers in the Temple. I'll need to draft it out and see how it goes.
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Post by Dragus on Oct 17, 2022 16:50:39 GMT -8
Good post on Draggle Rock. Gunna move the action to the new topic for it when I post next. Already brainstorming ideas.
I felt that Havok showing him in a vision rather then just tell him was a good approach, seeing those moments relived conveys more than words could. Really showed the human side of Havok.
I love that kind of stuff, that they are these powerful evil beings, but they still have normal human needs and complications.
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 18, 2022 5:53:57 GMT -8
Yeah, thanks for noticing! :) I've been experimenting with writing a sith with a broader range of emotions with Tyna. Based on how that went, I've been giving it a shot with Havok and trying to give him more emotional depth. Some of it was inspired by Dragus. You make him silly sometimes but at the same time he is still a terrifying character. It made me realize that a sith can feel more than just dark angry ambition and still be taken seriously, if written right.
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Post by Dragus on Oct 18, 2022 11:16:58 GMT -8
I actually love flipping between the two different sides. One minute he's a grotesque cartoon character and the next he's a cannibal dinosaur molestation monster.
My favourite setup is to start silly to disarm, then once everyone is comfortable, get serious and freaky. Then once they're serious, right back to silly. Just keep switching up the tone until you have no idea what to expect.
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 21, 2022 16:11:01 GMT -8
its a sound strategy.
So update, got a job offer, and today I made a counteroffer... and they said they'd get back to me. I might have an awesome job by next week, (fingers crossed) and basically I'll be packing and moving and starting work sometime in November. Which will affect my post frequency. Which is also kinda down right now due to job search stuff. Anyway, I'll keep you in the loop but things may get super busy the next two weeks.
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Post by Dragus on Oct 22, 2022 4:34:00 GMT -8
I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya.
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Post by Dread Lord Havok on Oct 27, 2022 6:50:42 GMT -8
I accepted an offer, so I have a job. Horay!
Now we need to find an apartment and move.
I like the hannite sorting process and the night ewoks. Sniff out those cult recruits!
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Post by Dragus on Oct 28, 2022 9:51:13 GMT -8
I thought it made sense to give them a bit of structure. Otherwise it's like, what do they just show up with a broom and start sweeping? Nah, even monks need supervisors to tell em what to do.
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