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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Feb 10, 2020 9:21:35 GMT -8
Jenia's question was reasonable. Nicademus suspected there were others that thought of the same, but weren't as bold as the newly appointed Grand Admiral was in this instance. The holoimage of the Xyston remains before all at the Moff Council, allowing Nicademus to key the console slightly, allowing for more specs to appear, some of which would answer Jenia's question.
The Xyston project is utilizing the strong frame work of the ISD and the Allegiance class warships. My researchers and architects have assured me that this ship will prove to be the better of the two, in comparison with the Mandator IV dreadnought. The Xyston armament is more powerful. Whereas the Mandator IV is severely lacking, thus requiring a significant escort in order for the vessel to be effective.
Whoever had been behind the Mandator IV project had... well, mysteriously vanished for lack of a better label. The Mandator IV had proven to be a good model for besieging worlds, but the Sack of Mon Calamari showed its ineffective role as a warship. As a result, these Siege Dreadnoughts were not pleasing to the Emperor. This resulted in the Storm Dreadnought variant, which were proving to be quite the concept in the Imperial Military Research department.
Thanks to our Kyber Crystal mines on Mygeeto and Ilum as well as a lesser extent on Dantooine, we have been able to gather proper resources to power the Xyston's hunger for power. Technological advancements have also been focused around harnessing the power effectively, thus making this new warship an effective battle cruiser. I have little doubt that its performance will outshine the Mandator IV.
The Emperor hoped these answers would be sufficient to Grand Admiral Kasalle.
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Post by Harnan Ren on Feb 15, 2020 3:14:19 GMT -8
Harnan sat silently at the opposite end of the table. His gaze shifted to settle upon Jenia as Nicademus announced that the Kasalle family would take ownership and control of the Solomon Mines. An announcement that, would be to the surprise of many, he had suggested to the Emperor. Salvatore Kasalle had proved a valuable ally to the Knights of Ren, despite the feelings of many other Imperials toward the Ren. Thus, it was only fitting that they were rewarded. Although it might not be seen as the Ren having any involvement, those that benefited from this decision would be well aware.
Harnan's gaze shifted beneath his helmet as the topic of discussion turned to the creation of an Imperial Economic Administration to be led by the Moff turned Director, Vilim Ju'oda. Even at a glance, the Master of the Ren could tell he would not like Director Ju'oda. The sheer, unbridled arrogance and sense of self importance as the man sat there basking in his accolade told Harnan everything he needed to know. He trusted in the persuasive effects of money and its power to get things done. Something Harnan suspected was going to bring the Director into conflict with the Ren.
But his seething gaze, hidden by his helmet, move from Ju'oda. Switching his focus between Nicademus and Jenia as the pair discussed details pertaining to the new Xyston-class Star Destroyer prototype that would be given to Garrick Needa's command. Harnan remained silently seated as he reviewed the schematics of the ship, noting the massive bow mounted Superlaser. The last time such weapons were in use, was when Palpatine ruled the Empire. Sidious, as was his real name, believed in the ability to obliterate entire planets and force others into submission with such a threat. It was curious to see Nicademus starting down this particular path, now that an Imperial Knight sat the throne as Empress
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Post by Standash Thul on Feb 18, 2020 7:11:39 GMT -8
Standash, reads the spec on the new ship and her heart stops. Years of training alone kept reaction from her face, but inside she was crying out. She knew that serving in the Empire would test her morals. She was actuality excited for most of this. It would let her lead better and do what was needed. The only thing that mattered were results. Now she was staring down the holographic barrel of something that challenged that. Ever child, from the poor districts all the way to the palace had grown up hearing stories of the loved ones lost to the deathstar. It was a part of who she was as a person. It was a reason she pushed to govern Carida, she could understand the people better.
Here was the First Order building the next line in those disgusting weapons. She wanted to stand up in outrage, but she knew she couldn't. She didn't have near the influence to pull that off. She instead hid behind her icy gaze and buried the feeling deep inside. There were Force users in the room, they would know, but she hoped they would not say anything. She had plans, and being called out here could complicate them.
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Post by Thomas Zahn on Feb 19, 2020 2:13:43 GMT -8
Zahn had thus far remained silent and made no comments upon anything that had been brought up. But sitting there, staring at the Xyston-class Star Destroyer, He knew he could hold his silence no longer. He knew that his very next comments were about to make or break his entire career. He could very well end up as the shortest serving High Marshal and Grand Moff that any Empire had seen. But even so, he turned his gaze toward Emperor Delvardus
Your Majesty, I beg your forgiveness, but are we going to address the superlaser sized elephant in the room? Not to put too fine a point on the matter, but such weapons haven't historically inspired a great deal of law and order...
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Post by Shel Hu on Feb 20, 2020 14:34:08 GMT -8
Shel sat and listened to the presentation and was sure to read the technical data that was being transmitted to her. She was comfortable to yield any concerns that needed addressing to her Grand Moff, but did sit up a little taller when it was announced that the ship yards she oversaw would be building a new fleet for the First Order. But when the mention of a planet killing superlaser was brought up, she couldn't help but give away a small hint of a smile. This was the Empire she had known, growing up, hearing tales of the mighty Death Star and it's awesome capabilities. Truly such a thing would be a boon to their navy, but it was clear that their were those present who thought otherwise.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Feb 20, 2020 15:05:03 GMT -8
Nicademus could tell the looks on people's faces. He did not need the Force to sense their thoughts nor their emotions. There was a clear divide between those who approved of the immense weapon carried on the underbelly of the Xyston, but there were those who did not approve it. The Emperor glances in the direction of the Grand Marshal Zahn, the only one either brave or foolish enough to question his decision on the matter involving the Xyston's main armament and approving its production as a prototype.
It all depends on how it is wielded, Grand Marshal. The Old Empire adhered to that Doctrine of Fear, the usage of force to make worlds be compliant and obedient to the central authority that was the Emperor and his vision for the galaxy. True, such weapons do not inspire a great deal of law and order... but we were not built to rely upon those weapons.
The Neo-Imperialism, founded by the Emperor, was far more focused on utilizing propaganda and promoting the virtues of Imperialism upon the populace, creating order through obedience which was nurtured through this indoctrination. Still, this was an advancement of technology and the First Order was all about that very same progression. Slowly, his gaze turned away and looked at all gathered.
The Imperial Knights once feared that the Dark Side could corrupt me... and perhaps they still do. I believe the sentiment is the same here. You fear that I may be turning to the ideals and principles of the Old Empire. That I may be falling for the seduction of powerful weapons, devastators of worlds, harbringers of complete and utter destruction. You fear that I could change who I am and use this weapon without impunity.
The Emperor slowly leans back in his chair, folding his hands together.
This weapon will not be used to force planets to obey. It will not be used to destroy rebellious worlds. We have sought the preservation of worlds so that they may be of use to this nation. It exists, nonetheless, as a powerful weapon that can used on fleets of enemy ships. And its testing will yield results for future technologies. After all, this is a different kind of superlaser, a pulsating one from what my researchers have told me.
Nicademus turns back to Thomas Zahn afterward.
This weapon will not used to breed law and order, Grand Marshal. It will be used to pierce the defense of our foes and ensure that fear is ever present in their hearts. It will put them on their guard and, certainly, make them think twice. It is a deterrent, but also a weapon. But not a means to ensure order and law as our ancestors once believed. Does this satisfy your answer?
Slowly, he turns to the rest present.
Does this satisfy all of you?
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Post by Moff Valen on Feb 24, 2020 22:41:21 GMT -8
Valen remained silent as Emperor unveiled his plans for a superweapon. He agreed with Grand Marshal Zahn that such a weapon was, to put it mildly ill advised. Such a project would of course be costly, the resources and labour put into the project could, in Valen's mind be far better spent elsewhere. Zahn was indeed correct that such projects had historically always backfired and inspired more resistance a rebellion and further legitimised the Empire's enemies arguments. No matter how the Emperor chose to dress the project up and explain its virtues, the reality is that once its existence is made public the only people who would view it favourably are die hard imperialist fundamentalists who would naturally either be aligned towards the Empire anyway or already oppose it. It would win no allies and only breed more enemies. Not mention its military applications are severely limited and would likely provide a lucrative target for any rebellion.
Still, Valen remained silent, instead opting to continue observing the room. No doubt there would be others beyond Zahn who were displeased with the super weapons, be it for moral reasons or practical reasons. It would be unlikely anyone else would stand up and speak in opposition. For Valen he knew that voicing opposition would change nothing, the Emperor had surely made his mind up if he was ready to present the Xyston to the Council. Besides, Valen preferred to work quietly behind the scenes and avoid revealing his positions or plans whenever possible.
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Post by Standash Thul on Feb 25, 2020 7:36:18 GMT -8
*Nothing could change the Emperor's mind, it was set. Despite her deep reservations, she was still the same pragmatic woman she has always bee. Standash composes herself. She turns the anger into passion and uses that for energy. This was going to be her first address to this group, the anger kept the butterflies at bay, she just had to keep it in check. She stood up, her icy eyes survey the room before she spoke. Those that knew who she was would be expecting something from her, some likely expected her to hang herself or speak treason. They would be mistaken. She cleared her throat and began speaking*
Your Highness, fellow leaders of the First Order. We all have a perspective on this announcement. Some of us are for it, excited for the power it will give us. Others have worries. Planet killers do trigger many thoughts in myself. I am Alderaanian by birth and I rule and represent Carida here today... needless to say, I have been effected by these weapons more than most anyone here. But that is not the discussion."
*She pauses, letting wonder build for her next statement. Also to let her regather her composer. The stories she heard of lost loved ones from her childhood building in her mind. She shook them away, they were not helping her here.*
"Your Highness did not bring this too us as a proposal for debate, but to inform us of a decision you have made. You are telling us what is happening, and it is up to us to respond. Those of you whose sectors respect pure power, lean into it. Those of you whose people will be in fear, show them hope for peace it will bring. Our job is to use this to benefit the First Order in every way..This ship will be a symbol. It is up to us to make sure it is the right symbol."
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Post by Kara Lassiter on Feb 25, 2020 21:26:53 GMT -8
*Moff Lassiter's hologram next to Grand Moff Zahn had been sitting in the chair with a thoughtful expression ever since the Emperor made his declaration about slavery. It was true, the practice was unsavory. However the logistics of this process would be a nightmare and her mind was largely tied up with working out what would need to be done back on Arkania to comply with the Emperor's decree. Arkania currently utilized a large slave-labor force in their mines, and freeing them could cause problems. However, if it were handled properly, it could be done with minimal unrest. She listened as the new ship was revealed and the other Moff's reacted and the Emperor responded. Actively, she was a bit shocked by the proposal of a superweapon. However, her junior rank among the assemblage of Imperials present was not conducive to have anything to speak of. Passively, her mind was on arrangements she would have to make in regard to the mines on the world she ruled.*
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Post by Thomas Zahn on Mar 4, 2020 12:34:55 GMT -8
And so it seemed Zahn would continue to serve another day, as the Emperor regarded the concern that was finally voiced. Many an Emperor and Tyrant would have merely brushed it aside, informing them he had made a decision and that was that. But Emperor Delvardus was no such low ranked totalitarian dictator. Like Zahn, the man believed in the good the Empire could achieve. True enough, as Standash pointed out, a decision had been made and the Moff Council was certainly just an advisory body. But it would be foolish to disregard the concerns raised by said council
Respectfully Moff Thule, we are here to advise the Emperor upon what he decides, and offer viewpoints for him to consider on the matter... If he only wanted sheep, I suspect the Emperor would have only to look to the nearest farm...
He turns his attention back upon Emperor Delvardus then
I appreciate the information your Highness, and it does indeed answer my questions... Such a concern and consideration is proof that you are not like those rulers of ages past...
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Post by Garrick Needa on Mar 4, 2020 13:40:36 GMT -8
And so it seemed Zahn would continue to serve another day, as the Emperor regarded the concern that was finally voiced. Many an Emperor and Tyrant would have merely brushed it aside, informing them he had made a decision and that was that. But Emperor Delvardus was no such low ranked totalitarian dictator. Like Zahn, the man believed in the good the Empire could achieve. True enough, as Standash pointed out, a decision had been made and the Moff Council was certainly just an advisory body. But it would be foolish to disregard the concerns raised by said councilRespectfully Moff Thule, we are here to advise the Emperor upon what he decides, and offer viewpoints for him to consider on the matter... If he only wanted sheep, I suspect the Emperor would have only to look to the nearest farm... He turns his attention back upon Emperor Delvardus thenI appreciate the information your Highness, and it does indeed answer my questions... Such a concern and consideration is proof that you are not like those rulers of ages past... "Furthermore, to address concerns surrounding the practicality of such a weapon, it is no Death Star. We have learned from the mistakes of the past - by creating this weapon to be for use only on a Star Destroyer-type vessel, we ensure that it does not present an overtly large target for agents of our enemies. The Death Star's greatest fault was the resources it drew away from other Imperial projects - this will not face that same issue, being smaller then even a Resurgent-Class Star Destroyer." Then, he chose to address simple design concerns to further back the Emperor's point."Likewise, the use of the Allegiance-Class frame means that the only resources spent in design have been on the weapon itself, which does not draw away manpower nor time from any of the other Imperial shipyards. Production and budgeting has been extremely negligibly affected by the production of this weapon, and it shall remain so into the future.: |
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Mar 4, 2020 17:52:24 GMT -8
It seemed the concern, from before, was now relieved. Certainly, there were those among the more older and veteran ranks of the First Order that would have had quite the approval of making examples of planets through the Xyston's superlaser. Perhaps younger officers of old Imperial nobility would be of this opinion too. However, this Empire was meant to learn from its past and progress into a better future. In that moment, the Emperor recalled a conversation with Faina and Xeonon, before the Sack of Mon Calamari. They both recommended the Victory Without War program as a future goal in mind. Faina once said a sword that was sheathed could still be a deterrent. The Xyston would be such a deterrent against their borders.I will leave Grand Admiral Needa to the details of the shipyard's security and countermeasures to any attempts at... learning of its construction. I would ask that Moff Valen be the designated person in handling external security. Monitor the channels and ensure our enemies are blind, Moff Valen.The Emperor's gaze turned to the silent Chiss, giving him a slight nod before leaning back in his chair. There were still some things to discuss, one of which concerned the Ren and their future role in the Empire. With the change in leadership, once more, Nicademus had plans. However, he decides to change the string of topics thus far.Now, I open the floor to you all. Speak up and make any suggestions you wish to make. You are my trusted and skilled advisers. I wish to hear your proposals as any ruler should. This Empire was built, not just by me, but by all of you after all. So speak, let me hear what you have to suggest.
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Post by Standash Thul on Mar 6, 2020 20:34:03 GMT -8
After speaking out before, she gives a moment for another to speak. After a moment, she stands up. Using her datapad, she sends her proposal to the main projector and shares it with those at the meeting. Lists of ships some already built others in production and unassigned, personnel files of officers, troopers, specialists, and doctors.
Your Highness, My lords, and fellow Moffs. Extending from the last topic, I have a plan for me to do my part. Our lineage is not the most pristine in the eyes of our people, and those we will rule in the future. Our past is full of tyrants and those that wished to cause fear. We have done much to combat these preconceived ideas, but more is left to be done. To this end, I propose the creation of the First Order Humanitarian Fleet and Division. First and foremost, this fleet and force will provide medical and food aid to cities and worlds that have suffered a tragedy. Conflict, terrorism, natural disaster, or economics. Secondarily they will serve as peacekeepers and military police to help stabilize these situations.
Many of you will be asking why should we care, or where is our benefit? That is a fair question. Pragmatism has been one of the driving forces in the growth of is Empire. We will gain an untouchable fleet that can go places others cannot. Neutral worlds will welcome a fleet over their head, maybe even worlds loosely aligned with the Coalition and others. With that, His Highness's arm goes farther. The greatest reason for the creation of this fleet will be in recruiting our future leaders. Stormtroopers will be the heroes of children's stories, the flying wedge of a Star Destroyer a sign of peace and stability. Hope will replace fear. And we will see the Academies filled with excited youths looking to be the next heroes of the First Order.
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Post by Vilim Ju'oda [RETIRED] on Mar 7, 2020 3:18:16 GMT -8
"What a total waste of resources"
Said Ju'oda with scorn.
"And calling some of our predecessors tyrants is... slightly treacherous"
He added, narrowing his eyes while the capilar veins on his face pulsated.
"We provide order, law, stability. Everything else they must provide for themselves"
He waved a hand dismissively.
"Peacekeepers? That we already are! But a Galaxy is only ruled through unbridled authority and military might"
The director allows himself a chuckle.
"Already a Resurgent can bring worlds to their knees, through fear and intimidation, that's what our ships represent. We are not hope, we're power. But I guess your past record proves otherwise, you're too tainted and probably too naive... hard to understand for you, maybe? This is the Empire, not whatever travesty of a regime you're used to, princess"
He shows his sharper-that-average canines.
"Probably, you should yourself explain to the Coalition Senate that you will bring hope to the Galaxy... moff Standash. That will bring them to their knees, I'm sure"
The director had pronounced her name with utter contempt.
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Post by Thomas Zahn on Mar 7, 2020 4:53:32 GMT -8
Despite his disagreement with her earlier remarks, he felt no ill will toward Standash. She had a promising future ahead of her, despite the mistakes and failures of her past. So when the time finally came, he sat relaxed as Standash put forth her proposal. The Moff having her moment in the spotlight, before Vilim decided to interject his brazen opinion. Zahn set his gaze upon the recently promoted Director. A smile uncharacteristically present upon the Grand Moffs face
Perhaps, Director, you would do well to consult your superiors before shooting off your mouth... For one so newly raised up, you certainly have a sharp tongue, but a dull whit... I can't help wonder if you truly fit to run the economy with such ill-conceived notions... It is an undeniable fact that the Empire has been run by those with ill intent, or perhaps Moff Ju'oda so quickly forgets Palpatine, Darth Krayt, Lord Vitiate, or perhaps more recently, Lord Sinistra and her ilk... The image of the Empire has been tainted by those whom cavort with the Dark Side and sought to use super weapons to intimidate and scare both friend and foe alike... If you weren't so busy preening your feathers and patting yourself on the back, you might not have missed the Emperor's point that the First Order is not here to rule through fear and intimidation. Such folly has been the downfall of Empire's and Emperor's of the past. Perhaps you may wish to excuse yourself from your duties for a short time and use it to review neo-imperialism and the First Order's history to better understand that which you are apart of... At least Moff Thule understands the principles of this Empire...
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Post by Moff Valen on Mar 11, 2020 19:05:53 GMT -8
At Thule's first mention of her plan Valen had begun pondering its potential implications, benefits, drawbacks and most importantly how he could utilise such a project. In his head he ran through probable scenarios. It could weaken the level of fear that Empire traditionally inspired in order to maintain order, yet it could also sway some peoples. It is after all far more expensive and difficult (not to mention unsustainable) to rule through occupation and an iron fist, than it is to rule through consent and inspire more peoples loyalty to the Empire and its ideals.
"Grand Marshal, Director," Valen said in his calm, level tone. "We are all here to provide advice to the Emperor and to help devise a path for the Empire moving forwards. There is no need for personal insults," he said looking between the two men, "Debate the merits of the proposal. It is rather unproductive to get at one another's throats when we are all on the same side."
"My perspective is that there is indeed some potential benefit to Moff Thule's proposal. Is it better to be loved or to be feared? Ideally one would be both, however, it is indeed difficult to unite both in one person, and thus it is safer to be feared," he argued, "Compassion has a place. Being perceived as compassionate not cruel would certainly be ideal," he paused for a moment, looking at Ju'oda before looking at Moff Thule. "Yet Director Ju'oda is correct. We do provide order, peace, and stability. This is our fundamental role in an otherwise anarchic galaxy. Cruelty does have an essential place in maintaining order, but we must be careful not to misuse it," so far Valen avoided taking a decisive stance, instead examining the merits of both the doctrine of fear some seemed to prefer and the strategy of populist compassion Thule seemed to be advocating for. He looked at the Emperor himself as he continued "Hope is perhaps the wrong goal, a naive consideration. Showing that the people of the galaxy are stronger together under the auspicious rule of His Majesty than they are alone or under a weak government such as the Republic or the Coalition ought to be the goal. A similar goal to hope, yes, but in my view distinct. Hope is dangerous. Hope breeds optimism and idealism and could undermine the Empire." Once more he paused and looked back towards Thule. "How much do you estimate this project to cost? Do you propose the development and construction of new ships or the re-purposing of older ships?" Ju'oda's concerns about cost could be reasonable.
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Post by Vilim Ju'oda [RETIRED] on Mar 12, 2020 5:08:38 GMT -8
Ju'oda had shown a hint of anger at the grand moff, including his face being distorted with the striations blaring in red. But, he cooled off and nodded after Valen spoke, quite ably.
"Grand moff, no need to feel so wrathful towards a simple bureaucrat, maybe my career has made me old-fashioned in that regard"
He said, his face was emotionless.
"I still remember previous princesses of Alderaan and how much they costed to the Empire, in lives and resources. Possibly my zeal got the worst on me, but I do apologize to Moff Standash if she felt offended. I defer to your Grand Moffness' judgement"
He claps both hands.
"Yet, is my duty to advise the Emperor, and my voice is and should be heard as I belong to this august body as much as you do. For this, I counsel the Emperor against this measure, because it might lessen our fortitude and create a source of expenditure that will only weaken our strenght and send the wrong message to the Galaxy"
Ju'oda looks at Standash.
"Maybe the moff has the proper figures and data to sway me over. Tell me, how many credits will this cost? How many new personel will have to be hired? How will they fit into our current hierarchy? How much will be invested in infraestructure? How will you handle the logistics? May I ask how you will provide for trillions of people? Have you selected a proper staff? How will you avoid corruption in remote star systems? Who will be your suppliers? Where do the needed funds come from? My stimations is that such a large programme will need a vast funding, probably larger than whatever was needed to develop the Xyston and, probably, almost as much as would take to commission a new Executor-class, yearly. Probably, even more"
The director examined his nails for a moment, with a sly smile.
"Have you considered all that?"
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Post by Brock Ferrum on Mar 12, 2020 11:51:50 GMT -8
*As the Moffs and Grand Moffs of the council began to "debate" the merits of Moff Thul's proposal a raucous string of laughter breaks through the voices from the head of the table as Brock takes a few seconds to revel in the irony of the situation. Seeing that he has also gained the attention of the others with his outburst the smiling armored Imperial Knight spoke, his voice still tinged with laughter as he addressed Moff Valen first.* "Moff Valen, while I appreciate your efforts as Peacemaker I feel like they may fall on deaf ears. Were Imperial bureaucrats and soldiers not throwing insults back and forth at each other I dare say the stars of the galaxy may all go dark." *His expression dropped from joviality and his brown eyes turned serious as he continued.* "While you have some good points and your fence sitting skills are quite admirable there is one point you made which I feel I must address. You speak of the danger hope may represent to the empire if encouraged. While that may be true of many of the empires that came before us Moff Thul's proposal isn't creating hope that will burn us, it is making us the object of hope, the symbolic representation of that feeling. One does not turn hope against itself. Rather than making us vulnerable to hope it is building us a buffer to use hope to keep the hearts of the people behind us, preventing the desire for rebellion rather than setting it's seeds.
*Turning to Moff Ju'oda a gleam returns to his eyes as his smile returns along with a good chuckles as he addresses the director of bean counting.* "I cannot help but laugh at the irony of your questions. We announce the creation of a somewhat ridiculous superlaser welded to a starship and you don't so much as ask how much it might cost, but as soon as we talk about actually helping people suddenly you come down with the 20 questions, hoping to catch your fellow Moff flat footed and prove yourself oh so superior and knowledgeable. I would point out the moral reasons why we should do this but I have a feeling Morality and you have a long distance relationship at best so instead I will put it in terms of doctrine. I'm not sure what empire you have been serving this whole time but this one *He gestures around the room they are in as if pointing to the empire itself.* uses fear as a last resort. Yes we could rule planets with the iron fist of Resurgents but that is neither efficient nor cost effective He puts emphasis on that second part as well as just a hint of scorn. in the long run to justify us running around doing that around the galaxy. To put it in simple terms that you can understand, this venture will cost far less for it's reach than the Star Destroyers it would take to subjugate the same locations. Not to mention the moral obligation we have as the galaxy's greatest superpower, but of course why would anyone in this august concern themselves with something so petty as moral obligations or the right thing." *Bringing his own thoughts to a close he leans back in his chair and pulls out a strip of nerf jerky, plopping it in his mouth as he prepares to enjoy the show.*
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Post by Standash Thul on Mar 14, 2020 20:36:33 GMT -8
She politely pulled up the funding pages, to start with the legitimate questions first.
If you look at the sections of the proposal I have highlighted you will see the figures. There are ships on the list that are to be repurposed, as well as a few that are currently under construction and have not been assigned yet. The figures are included. Funding would come from recruiting and training budgets under the military She through a quick glance at the director as a reminder that this funding wasn't under his control. She also pulled up the page for the new Auxilia Destroyer. If you also look, Carida is also due for a new planetary fleet, this would also serve that role. This would also be a good testbed for another new ship recently added to the fleet and are under construction, the Auxila.
She turned her icy gaze to the new Director. She spoke with a cool calmness. Now, to your concerns Director. You seem to have some understanding of my history, let me take this time to show you more of it. Have you ever considered how a twenty-year-old freshmen senator was able to take over and defeat the last galactic government to hold these halls? I built their trust, I gave them hope, and made them love me. When I had them, they gave me everything. Yes, I followed through, maybe not the way they expected, but they still left loving and trusting me. I destroyed what they had built and they cheered me for it. Yes, others realized what had happened, and they left in defeat. Win someone's heart Director, and they will give you their arms freely.
My relative, you mentioned, wasn't wrong, the tighter you squeeze the more things will slip through our fingers. Instead, with a firm hand, we can control even more.
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Post by Thomas Zahn on Mar 16, 2020 5:21:33 GMT -8
Zahn eyed Moff Valen as the Chiss spoke up, almost as if chiding himself and Ju'oda like they were children. He shook his head at the man
Are we on the same side though Moff Valen? It seems to me like yourself and Moff Ju'oda are a little out of touch with the rest of us within the First Order, some of whom have been serving this Empire since it's inception and some of us who have been raised and lived within its borders these past few years and have risen through these ranks. Some of us did not have our position or power thrust upon us. So yes, I will call into question and insult the morality of those that seem to believe we are just another continuation of Palpatine's rotten regime... Especially since by now, that fact could not be any further from the truth... We are not some cold hearted machine or war being orchestrated by a dead Sith Lord who sought only his own immortality with little care or regard for those below him...
He let out a sigh and shook his head. For once, he was about to do something slightly uncharacteristic
Unfortunately, I must say that I am in agreement with the Steward of the Imperial Knights on this matter... It seems ironic that the new elected Director of the Civilian Economic Branch has such an issue with one Military project, while overlooking the cost of a Xyston as some small expenditure... Superlasers, dear Director are not cheap projects, and I suspect upon a much more detailed look by yourself, will far outclass the expenditure of this military outreach project. Because that is indeed what it is, a military matter. Something this body operates well away from the jurisdiction of your newly formed position... But there is one final point that you both seem to be absolutely, and irrevocable incorrect about...
He leveled his gaze upon Valen and Ju'oda then. Keeping the pair easily within view so that they would know his words were directed upon them
Hope is only a weapon if we allow it to remain a tool of our enemies. The only reason Princess Organa was able to inflict such damage with it, is because the Imperials of the day sought to squash it out like some unwanted infestation that would ruin their power and position. Harnessing hope to our side will only strengthen the First Order and the Empire that it has become. Unless, as you seem to wish, we can allow the Corellians or this... self proclaimed Resistance to once more use hope as a weapon against us, and we can sit back and watch history repeat itself... Just because we are called the Empire, does not mean we must be a holocopy of it...
He turned his attention back to the proposal that Standash was still defending and displaying information for, noting several figures
Further more to Moff Thule's assessment here, much of the burden of this program will fall upon the Kuat Oversector, due to the repurposed vessels and use of the Kuati shipyards. Speaking of, I have it on good authority that the Auxilia is ahead of schedule. So any overblown ideas that this project would cost more to run than it would to build an Executor-class are farciful at best... I checked Moff Thule's numbers myself before approving the initial phases to commence. The Xyston you so seem to happily ignore... that will cost as much, if not more, than three Executor-class' combined... But please, Director, do bestow your mighty economic wisdom upon us further, unless of course you would like to confer with the numbers first, instead of launching outlandish attacks against a program you just learned existed...
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