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Post by Kaine Australis on Jan 29, 2021 9:15:54 GMT -8
Tiger-Class Cruiser
Ship Class: Cruiser
Ship Role: Cruiser
Ship Length: 480 meters
Agility (A): 3
Defensive (D): 4
Offensive (O): 4
Speed (S): 3
Special Gear: 1 Hangar
Description:
Standard Equipment:
Mk4 Fire Control System
Anti-ion Emission Tracer
Animated Metal Sealant
Inertial Compensators
Main Sublight Drive
Anti-Concussion Field Generators
Military Deflector Shield Generator
Repulsorlift Arrays
Molecular Furnaces
Hangar and Maintenance Facilities
72 Small craft
Barracks, Armoury, Support Facilities
Space for up to 200 troops
Armaments :
1 Heavy Mass Driver Cannon
4 Quad-Turbolaser Batteries
8 Dual Turbolaser Turrets
16 Quad-Laser Turrets
16 Point Defense Ion CannonsFollowing on from the Mandalorian designed light carrier nicknamed the Fortress, a quick strike and raiding craft, the designers at MandalArms turned their eye to a larger hybried cruiser/carrier design. The Tiger retains the Fortress's design where the sublight drive and hyperdrive draw their power from twin reactors, allowing for direct injection, where the vessel can shunt power from engines to shields to weapons where needed, making it extremely versatile. The Tiger is a capable warship in her own right, and a sturdy platform for her six squadrons of strike craft; the ship's superstructure is designed around the main hangar. The ship has various light weapon mounts suited to defence than engaging enemy capital ships, including quad lasers and ion cannons. The main gun is a ventrally mounted mass driver. Heavy weapons include four forward facing quad turbolaser batteries, and eight dual turbolaser turrets, allowing the Tiger to engage enemy capital ships. Crew quarters, engineering and maintenance are all located aft of the main hangar, with the command bridge and officer country located above. Troop barracks are also located above the main hangar near the pilots' quarters and pilots' mess. Below the hangar and the main decks are the capacitors, loading mechanism and other components that house the primary mass driver that runs the length of the ventral surface. All the compartments can be sealed off via blast door, and the outer hull is ringed with anti-concussion generators and shield projectors, making her quite a resistant vessel to incoming fire, she can easily focus shield energy on the surface where it is needed. |
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Post by Standash Thul on Feb 2, 2021 8:56:17 GMT -8
"Point Defense"
Also Point Defense light Ions are kinda different
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Post by Kaine Australis on Feb 2, 2021 9:08:14 GMT -8
Standash Thul Corrected.  The guns are the ones you'd see on a B-wing, but i figured theyd be suitable for turreted point defense too.
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Post by Standash Thul on Feb 2, 2021 9:12:27 GMT -8
On the B-Wing, they aren't really the primary anti star fighter weapon. Just interesting.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Feb 14, 2021 12:32:03 GMT -8
Standash Thul Corrected. The guns are the ones you'd see on a B-wing, but i figured theyd be suitable for turreted point defense too. Mmmm... it's again the whole thing of "weapons can't criss-cross between classes". I don't think you can give something on a B-Wing to a warship. So I would just remove that description if you have it and go for the generic Point Defense Ion CannonAlso, I am not sure a mass drive cannon should be on a carrier. Carriers tend to not be well armed. |
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Post by Kaine Australis on Feb 15, 2021 7:18:56 GMT -8
Nicademus Delvardus IV Roge, lets assume theyre the allowed ion cannons. As for the mass driver? Is there a guideline here regarding Carriers specifically? It's a capital ship, I reckon it should be allowed to mount weapons like other capital ships.
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Post by Standash Thul on Feb 15, 2021 7:40:51 GMT -8
You have a 4 for O, so I think it works. It is just conceptually tough. The "Point" of a "Carrier" is that it doen't have many weapons itself, it has fighters and bombers instead.
This Feels more like a stand a lone ship.
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Post by Kaine Australis on Feb 15, 2021 8:14:41 GMT -8
Standash Thul The intent here is that this ship function as something of a 'heavy' carrier, as opposed to the lightly armed or unarmed ones such as the other one i'm working on, or the Quasar Fire. I realise the ISDs aren't considered "carriers" but they're certainly heavily armed warships that carry fightercraft.
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Post by Standash Thul on Feb 15, 2021 9:03:01 GMT -8
Thats kinda the point. "Carriers" fit one role, ISDs and cursers fill a different role, I don't want to speak for Nic, but i think that is kinda the feeling here.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Feb 16, 2021 11:52:46 GMT -8
Going off the desire for a heavy carrier, let's give some examples of potential ones. The Acclamator I had namely a light compliment of turbolasers (12) with a lot of point defense cannons (24), and 4 heavy missile launchers. Its successor, the Aclamator II, had 24 turboalsers, no point defense system, and 2 heavy proton launchers. Both were much bigger than the Tiger-class by close to 300 meters. The Endurance-class, two times the size, had a light armament compared to say the Nebula. The only example of a heavy carrier was the Mon Calamari heavy carrier. No specifics, but it did only have turbolasers and ion cannons with enough space for several squadrons. A best comparison would likely be the Ton-Falk-class. About 20 meters longer, carries the same complement of starfighters, but only had 10 laser cannons, a warhead launch system for 60 concussion missiles, and 4 medium tractor beam projectors. The inclusion of a mass drive cannon, I feel, adds too much to something that's supposed to be a carrier. Even 'heavy carriers' by example don't have that kind of armament. In my opinion, and this is just a suggestion, this may need to be edited to be either as "keep the heavy carrier status, but lose the mass drive cannon," or "remake the class into something else." In my views, likely the reason why is because you'd need power for the various facilities to maintain, repair, and refit starfighters before, during, and after missions. Those are just my suggestions. However, I am still open to views. I just wondering why a carrier needs a mass drive cannon when it seems to have a decent armament without it. |
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Post by Luxeria on Feb 16, 2021 13:26:17 GMT -8
There are only a couple I would truly feel slip into a heavier carrier role. First is the Delta-class Carrier which is fairly well armed (similar to the Harrowers original stats before being updated) with 20 turbolaser batteries, 10 double heavy turbolaser cannons, 10 heavy ion cannons, and 10 tractor beam projectors alongside its 144 fighter capacity. Next, while a custom submission, I feel is even more powerful. The Cargador-class Carrier 16 Octuple Barbette Turbolaser Cannons, 30 Dual Turbolaser Cannons, and 16 Point Defence Laser Cannon Cannons while transporting 288 fighters. These are Star Frigate classes of course. There is also the Liberator-class Cruiser with its large armament of 24 heavy turbolaser batteries and 20 ion cannons with 72 fighters at a frigate size. One other ship I noticed that maybe something to compared it to is the Starmane-class Siege Cruiser which has a weapon list of 4 front facing mass driver cannons, 4 long range turbolaser batteries, 6 missile launch tubes, 20 quadlaser cannon emplacements, 10 Point Defense Quad Concussion Missile Emplacements and 25 point defense turrets with 60 fighters (12 less than this). Just a few more comparisons. |
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Post by Kaine Australis on Feb 16, 2021 15:30:55 GMT -8
Edits made to reflect the ship's changed status.
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Post by Standash Thul on Feb 18, 2021 5:56:09 GMT -8
It is a better cruiser than carrier. I feel like that's what people would call it in universe.
Approved.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Mar 9, 2021 15:01:00 GMT -8
Agreed on it being better as a cruiser.
Approved!
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The guns are the ones you'd see on a B-wing, but i figured theyd be suitable for turreted point defense too.
