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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 18:17:17 GMT -8
Let me try a compromise based on everything.
6 Light Turbolaser Turrets (based on main image in the OP) 22 Turboalser Cannons (based on the bombardment scene**) (eleven on each side) 10 Quad Laser Turrets (based off a compromise of the laser cannon variation) 30 Laser Cannons (based off a compromise of the laser cannon variation) 3 Tractor Beam Batteries 4 Gravity Well Projectors
** I feel that the image of the bombardment is meant for cinematic effect there given we see dual lances of laser bolts. Hence why I went with cannons, instead of turrets. Easily could be clustered together to make it seem like a turret, but are just singular emplacements meant for effective firepower within a clustered centering.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 18:02:33 GMT -8
So the mention of the long range turbolaser is between the dates of 27 ABY (the Battle of Borleias) and 40 ABY (when the Anakin Solo was crafted).
Oh! I found the confirmation we needed! It wasn't a true long-range turbolaser like what the Anakin Solo had. The project mentions this: So not what we know of later, which were the prototypes first installed at the beginning of the Second Galactic Civil War, nearly two decades later. It seemed the intention was to deceive the Yuuzhan Vong as Lah thought it was a new superweapon, not some trick that the New Republic made up. The project had an intended effect of putting the YZ on a small defense as they dedicated resources to countering super weapons rather than advancing.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:30:51 GMT -8
This looks pretty well done.
Why the points towards the 2 Heavy Projected Shield Generators? Is that meant to be similar to the Redundant Shield Generators?
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:29:18 GMT -8
I just want to verify that, as a custom, this is meant to be a variant of the Harrower-class correct?
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:28:09 GMT -8
Nice work on changing up the complements for the sake of space for housing various creatures.
Approved!
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:27:22 GMT -8
Approved!
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:26:24 GMT -8
Approved!
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:26:14 GMT -8
Hmmm... I am not sure this hangar can carry 24 starfighters. It can carry 11 of the MTTs, utilizing an interesting deployment system. Maybe less than 12?
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:24:50 GMT -8
Approved!
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:24:23 GMT -8
Approved!
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:23:45 GMT -8
Hmmm, I am not so sure about this submission having a total of 24 missile launchers on the wings considering the diagrams for it here. It seems to hold a lot of its necessary engines on the very tips of the wings which seem to encompass roughly 1/5. Might prove to be a bit heavy to be this bombardment/missile boat. Maybe just make it a missile boat?
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:21:33 GMT -8
I like this is how a Civilian Assault Tactical Refit... and it has Gravity Mines.
Anyways approve!
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:09:01 GMT -8
I don't want to approve because you used an image I wanted to use.
But nonetheless, approved!
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:06:12 GMT -8
What are the Stealth Features on this ship?
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 17:05:09 GMT -8
This a good alternative image to use!
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 16:54:50 GMT -8
After some discussion, if you wish to use the current weaponry and design history it would be better as a custom design. However, to continue developing it as a Canon entry... I will break this down as best I can per section: Long Range Heavy Ion Canons: thanks for showing the evidence there. Those are approved then for usage and should not have any further issues. Shipyards: there is some issue with the lore nonetheless. Taereb seems to have no history beyond the Sith Empire of the Great Galactic War era. Seeing as this a canon entry, this history is not correct. It is customized to make the vessel believable in why it was made and why it was shaped so. I do not think this is a good idea for history to be made up to such a degree given that it is being based off of a canon mention. It can be stated that it was made at such and such time, probably by an independent shipwright in the Outer Rim, utilized by X, for what could be the estimated purpose, and then mention its armaments. Which leads to another discussion... Armament: the comic takes place in 32 BBY, a decade before the Clone Wars. It is noted that the Acclamator was being tested as early as the same year, so this could be a design that precursors the true Acclamator, just as there is a Venator-styled Mandalorian Cruiser during the Neo-Crusader era. This ship could have even been made in the years prior to that, likely in the decade or so, putting it in the 40s and 50s BBY. Given that this would still be in the Ruusan Reformation restrictions, indicates how hard Ranulph had to push to get the Republic Outland Regions Security Force to be approved, these vessels armaments may not be as strong as they are listed in the entry. For one, prototypes of the long-range turbolasers weren't in service till the Second Galactic Civil War, a century later. This vessel certainly wouldn't have them. Turbolasers were likely light and few while laser cannons and ion cannons may have had a strong presence in order to combat pirates at best and police the systems they were assigned to. Missile launchers were probably rare too. We have to consider that as a canon entry, given its date and time, we have to make the entry's armament match what we know of the era, considering it is Pre-Clone Wars and biggest conflict that happened in recent memory was... the Stark Hyperspace War in 44 BBY and in the same year of 32 BBY, the Invasion of Naboo. This vessel, given that it appears to be some sort of Acclamator predecessor in design, may not have been as armed as we think, considering the timeline of events leading up to the military explosion of technology of the Clone Wars. And with that in mind, that is how we will shape this entry.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 15:53:18 GMT -8
I may have to recommend this be a custom entry for a key reason: Taereb as a company wasn’t introduced till 2011 and after when SWTOR was made. This comic came out 7 years prior. Hard to link a vessel with so little information beyond an appearance to a canon company that made ships for the Sith Empire and then vanished along with it after.
Another detail I want to mention is that we have had discussions before with long range weaponry. Only turbolasers seem to be it, nothing yet with ion cannons. I do know that there is a ground vessel that uses one but we have made decisions that what is used on ground vehicles doesn’t mean it can be used on vessels. Given its size, I do not think this vessel has the power necessary to utilize them. The Anakin Solo, an ISD II size, had two of these. The Megador which may have at 8,000 meters had a trio of them.
It even states in the article:
Given this, I do not think a 750 star frigate has the means to power them and everything else on it.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 14:58:29 GMT -8
22. An old decision from long ago that wasn’t made known: the Whills made a decision on Kyber-powered weaponry being equal to that of standard turbolasers.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Aug 1, 2023 14:35:27 GMT -8
Any sort of canon submissions do need the link to their articles from Wookieepedia hyperlinked in the title.
Edit: is this a canon vessel? I can’t seem to find it anywhere on Wookieepedia.
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Post by Nicademus Delvardus IV on Jul 22, 2023 19:03:29 GMT -8
The link is broken.
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